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From Konstantin Boudnik <...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] PMC Chair rotation time
Date Mon, 21 Nov 2016 20:33:32 GMT

This was a great discussion, thanks for the deep insight, Roman!

looks like this thread has stewed for a while and it is time to [VOTE]. The
following candidates were put forward during the [DISCUSS] (in the order of
their appearance on the thread):

  Dmitriy Setrakyan
  Vladimir Ozerov
  Konstantin Boudnik
  Valentin Kulichenko
  Denis Magda
  Branko ─îibej
Considering the number of the candidates I propose to use First-past-the-post
voting, with a single-round/single winner rules, where the candidate
collecting the most votes (not the majority) wins. [1]
Dmitriy, would you do the honors and start the formal [VOTE]?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-past-the-post_voting


On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 08:19PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Dmitriy Setrakyan
> <dsetrakyan@apache.org> wrote:
> > While all the candidates suggested so far look good, I would propose Denis
> > Magda as the next PMC chair. His participation in the project does not only
> > have to do with the code, but also with Ignite project overall, including
> > website, documentation, new tickets, design, etc.
> Sorry to come to this thread rather late, but I wanted to offer a somewhat
> different perspective that hopefully can help reframe this discussion
> a little bit.
> Note, that what I'm about to say is coming from a non-coding (on Ignite) member
> of the PMC. In fact, I stayed on the PMC after graduation more with my ASF
> member hat on, rather than as somebody who wanted to directly contribute
> to where the technology was going. My concern during your incubation days
> was (and still is!) how well are you guys doing on the community development
> front.
> If you recall, the diversity requirement (the fact that more than 80% of project
> members work for the same company) came up during our graduation. While
> it wasn't a blocking requirement it still was a very valid concern. Monocultures
> are really nasty for open source communities.
> I think it would be fair to say that Ignite community hasn't really
> improved much
> diversity-wise since its graduation. And I honestly feel that this is,
> to a larger
> extent, because the focus is now missing. It was well understood that in order
> to graduate the community had to do all it can to demonstrate a
> positive trajectory
> in that direction. And we did. But we kind of dropped the ball on it since.
> With that in mind, I offer my view on what a change in the Chair could
> offer: a renewed
> focus on community growth and development. If you agree with this premise than
> somebody like Branko or Cos who could act as a forcing function to constantly
> remind us about what else can we do to grow and develop this community would
> be an ideal choice for the Chair (after all Branko's "tough love" was
> probably the
> most useful part of Ignite's experience in the Incubator).
> Now, of course, strictly speaking you don't have to be a Chair to do
> that. But lets
> face it -- that helps. And besides, a project's Chair doesn't really
> have any special
> powers when it comes to technological consensus, but anything that has to do
> with external community the VP title that the chair gets can help quite a bit.
> Long story short: if Branko or Cos (as former mentors) would like to
> commit to 6 more
> months of the same hands-on mentorship focused on community development -- they
> would have my wholehearted support.
> Thanks,
> Roman (with my PMC member hat on).

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