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From Vladimir Ozerov <voze...@gridgain.com>
Subject Re: Removing "fabric" from Ignite binary package name
Date Fri, 03 Aug 2018 06:50:09 GMT
Folks,

Can you please explain the problem with TC and artifacts? Can we just
rename final artifact at the end of a build phase just before signing, and
leave the rest TC infrastructure as is?

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 12:28 AM Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrakyan@apache.org>
wrote:

> Anton, Petr,
>
> Thanks for your readiness to assist. Can this be done for 2.7 release?
>
> D.
>
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 1:32 AM, Anton Vinogradov <av@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > What I see is that we spent almost a year discussing how to do this.
> > I'm pretty sure we had enough time to do everything properly.
> >
> > So, proposal is to stop this discussion and start refactoring.
> >
> > I do not see any pitfalls and ready to assist if necessary.
> >
> > чт, 2 авг. 2018 г. в 5:14, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrakyan@apache.org>:
> >
> > > I vote to remove the fabric from the build in the easiest way possible.
> > Can
> > > other Igniters comment?
> > >
> > > D.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 12:46 PM, Petr Ivanov <mr.weider@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > My concern here is exactly about internal build processes — removing
> > > > fabric from the name of binary archive (with any way) will break lots
> > of
> > > > them.
> > > > There will be no sacrifices, just lots of work for fixing build
> > processes
> > > > (where we won’t be able to introduce changes proactively).
> > > >
> > > > Therefore only fabric removal implementation (quick with some legacy
> > left
> > > > or full refactoring) is on the agenda.
> > > > And this matter should be jugged by the community: currently we have
> > (if
> > > > our voices are equal) 1:1 with Anton about it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On 1 Aug 2018, at 22:28, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrakyan@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's focus on what is important here. Our users do not care about
> > our
> > > > > internal build process.If we could remove the word fabric from the
> > next
> > > > > release without any significant sacrifices in the build process or
> > > making
> > > > > it less maintainable, I suggest we do it.
> > > > >
> > > > > D.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 12:24 PM, Petr Ivanov <mr.weider@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Simple way with some hack and legacy maintenance: accept patch as
> it
> > > is
> > > > >> implemented now.
> > > > >> Hard way: full assembly refactoring and hadoop rejection.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Anyway, after this is merged to master — complete automation
> systems
> > > > >> revision (TeamCity for example) is required due to heavy hardcode
> of
> > > > >> “fabric” in such systems.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> On 1 Aug 2018, at 21:55, Dmitriy Setrakyan <
> dsetrakyan@apache.org>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> OK, so what is the plan? How do we get rid of the fabric name?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> D.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 2:21 AM, Anton Vinogradov <av@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> Since you proposing patch to the community, you are the very man
> > :)
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> ср, 1 авг. 2018 г. в 12:16, Petr Ivanov <mr.weider@gmail.com>:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> You are convincing the wrong person.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> On 1 Aug 2018, at 12:05, Anton Vinogradov <av@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Peter,
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> We had a discussion about how to do this properly.
> > > > >>>>>> Proposed solution cannot be merged, since it makes code harder
> > > than
> > > > it
> > > > >>>>> was.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> The only case is to perform complete refactoring and get rid
> of
> > > all
> > > > >>>>>> postfixes and other weird stuff.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> For example
> > > > >>>>>> - <ignite.zip.pattern>
> > > > >>>>>> - <ignite.edition>
> > > > >>>>>> should be definetely removed from code.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> ср, 1 авг. 2018 г. в 9:39, Peter Ivanov <mr.weider@gmail.com
> >:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> The task was ready long ago, but community failed to review
> and
> > > > merge
> > > > >>>> it
> > > > >>>>>>> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
> > > > >>>>>>> Not being a committer, my capabilities of introducing such
> > > changes
> > > > >> are
> > > > >>>>>>> limited.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> I will update code during this week and will pass for review
> > once
> > > > >>>> again.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 at 00:24, Dmitriy Setrakyan <
> > > > >> dsetrakyan@apache.org
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Yes, agree, fabric has to be removed. If it is done in 2.7,
> > > would
> > > > be
> > > > >>>>>>> great!
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Denis Magda <
> > dmagda@apache.org
> > > >
> > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Peter, folks,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> It's weird, but we have been failing to introduce this
> minor
> > > > change
> > > > >>>>>>> since
> > > > >>>>>>>>> December. Can we get it done for 2.7 that is being
> discussed
> > at
> > > > the
> > > > >>>>>>>> moment?
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Are there any technical issues that block you from merging
> > the
> > > > >>>>> changes?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Denis
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 10:03 PM Peter Ivanov <
> > > > mr.weider@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Ok, then I will update issue code and start preparation
> for
> > > > build
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> configuration changes.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 at 23:41, Denis Magda <
> dmagda@apache.org
> > >
> > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> With which one — current implementation in issue?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> That's the answer to your question:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. quickly fix all of them (can be solved by preliminary
> > > > >>>>>>>> preparations —
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> searching for -fabric- usages in build configuration);
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>  2. update all branches to master because otherwise old
> > > branch
> > > > >>>>>>>> will
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> stop
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> building.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Denis
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 1:12 PM, Petr Ivanov <
> > > > mr.weider@gmail.com
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 Jun 2018, at 23:04, Denis Magda <
> dmagda@apache.org>
> > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm fine with the suggested approach.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> With which one — current implementation in issue?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> However, not sure we need to update
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> all the branches. Can't branch owners just pull the
> > changes
> > > > >>>>>>> back
> > > > >>>>>>>>> from
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> master if the plan to merge back later?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, we as an initiative group of this issue
> should
> > do
> > > > >>>>>>>> nothing,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> it
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> will lie on shoulders of developers.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Petr Ivanov <
> > > > >>>>>>>> mr.weider@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The most simple approach — repack and rearchive binary
> > > > archive
> > > > >>>>>>>>> after
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> release build, however that would not resolve the
> > problem
> > > > >>>>>>>> globally
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> (and
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will require fixing every build configuration we have
> on
> > > > >>>>>>>>> TeamCity).
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Current approach implemented in task — creates already
> > > > correct
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> folder
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> binary archive name, but old name (with -fabric-) is
> > used
> > > in
> > > > >>>>>>>>> almost
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> every
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> build configuration too and merge code to master will
> > > > require
> > > > >>>>>>>> to:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. quickly fix all of them (can be solved by
> preliminary
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> preparations
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> — searching for -fabric- usages in build
> configuration);
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. update all branches to master because otherwise old
> > > > >>>>>>> branch
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> will
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> stop building.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> WDYT?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 Jun 2018, at 22:42, Denis Magda <
> > dmagda@apache.org>
> > > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Petr,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for pulling up the conversation.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I still prefer us not to complicate the things and
> just
> > > > >>>>>>> remove
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> "fabric"
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the *package name*. Use the easiest way
> possible.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I don't care about Hadoop and would not
> > > suggest
> > > > >>>>>>> the
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> community
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasting its time on it. So, just rename the
> > > > suffixes/prefixes
> > > > >>>>>>>> of
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files the way you like to address Anton's concerns.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 1:49 AM, Petr Ivanov <
> > > > >>>>>>>> mr.weider@gmail.com
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igniters,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lets define once again what should be done in this
> [1]
> > > > task?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If current implementation is good, than I’ll update
> it
> > > to
> > > > >>>>>>>> master
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pass
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for review.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet, there is other part of the task which concerns
> > our
> > > > >>>>>>> build
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> server
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> — I
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume that almost all our build configurations will
> > > fail
> > > > >>>>>>> due
> > > > >>>>>>>> to
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> name
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change and there is no simple way of updating
> > > > configurations
> > > > >>>>>>>>> other
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> then
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> merge task to master and start fixing failing
> builds.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-7251
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Feb 2018, at 01:56, Denis Magda <
> > > dmagda@apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we necessarily need to remove
> 'fabric'
> > > > word
> > > > >>>>>>>> from
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> every
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the project, we just need to rename the name of
> > > > >>>>>>>>> downloadable
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> package.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Couldn’t say it better than you, Val. Thanks for
> > > pitching
> > > > >>>>>>> in
> > > > >>>>>>>> :)
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> This
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exactly what the ticket is about.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> —
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2018, at 11:53 AM, Valentin Kulichenko <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valentin.kulichenko@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anton,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we necessarily need to remove
> 'fabric'
> > > > word
> > > > >>>>>>>> from
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> every
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the project, we just need to rename the name of
> > > > >>>>>>>>> downloadable
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> package. Is
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there any other place where 'fabric' is exposed to
> > the
> > > > >>>>>>> user?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If that's the case, it should not be a big change,
> > no?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Val
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 3:49 AM, Anton Vinogradov <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avinogradov@gridgain.com>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're proposing changes without viewing a code
> :)
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 10:07 PM, Denis Magda <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> dmagda@apache.org>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anton,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What’s wrong if we just go ahead and:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - replace “fabric” with “ignite”
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - replace “hadoop” with “ignite-hadoop"
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> —
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 8, 2018, at 1:51 AM, Anton Vinogradov <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avinogradov@gridgain.com
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "hadoop" and "fabric" words work on same
> engine.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have special assembly desctiptors, for
> > example:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dependencies-fabric.xml
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dependencies-fabric-lgpl.xml
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dependencies-hadoop.xml
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release-base.xml
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release-fabric.xml
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release-fabric-base.xml
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release-fabric-lgpl.xml
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release-hadoop.xml
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, I'ts impossible for now to remove "fabric"
> > > > without
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> "hadoop"
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removal.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only one case is to make some ditry hack, but
> > > that's
> > > > >>>>>>> not
> > > > >>>>>>>> a
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> good
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 11:29 AM, Sergey Kozlov
> <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> skozlov@gridgain.com
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 hadoop accelerator removing for AI 2.5
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also probably IGFS should be either removed or
> > > > >>>>>>>> refactored,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> e.g.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> create
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FS
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly over the data region without using
> > > "cache"
> > > > >>>>>>>> entity
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> as
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> an
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intermidiate stage
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 2:13 AM, Denis Magda <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> dmagda@apache.org>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anton,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t get how the hadoop editions are
> related
> > > to
> > > > >>>>>>> this
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> task.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> The
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not named as “data fabric” for a while.
> > Check
> > > up
> > > > >>>>>>> the
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> site
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> or
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> docs.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The “fabric” word is being removed from all
> > over
> > > > the
> > > > >>>>>>>>> places
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be removed from the editions’ names.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for the hadoop future, my personal
> position
> > is
> > > > to
> > > > >>>>>>>>> retire
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> this
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> component
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and forget about it. I would restart the
> > > > conversation
> > > > >>>>>>>>> again
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> after
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> done
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with 2.4.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> —
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 7, 2018, at 2:13 AM, Anton
> Vinogradov <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> av@apache.org
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis, Petr,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I checked PR and found we have
> > *overcomplicated*
> > > > >>>>>>> logic
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> with
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "fabric"
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "hadoop" postfixs.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we really need to assembly 2 editions?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hadoop" edition still valued?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My proposal is to get rid of "hadoop"
> edition
> > > and
> > > > >>>>>>>>> replace
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> it
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction of how to use "fabric" edition
> > > > instead.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instruction will be pretty easy -> move
> > "hadoop"
> > > > >>>>>>>> folder
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> from
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "optional"
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> root directory :)
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In that case we can just remove all postfix
> > > logic
> > > > >>>>>>> from
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> maven
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> poms
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simplify release process.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Denis
> Magda <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> dmagda@apache.org
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Petr, thanks for solving it!
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope that Anton V. or some other build
> master
> > > > will
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> double-check
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes and merge them.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> —
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2017, at 8:29 AM, Petr Ivanov <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> mr.weider@gmail.com
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IGNITE-7251 is done, needs review and some
> > > > >>>>>>>> additional
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> tests.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> See
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PR
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #3315 [1].
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > https://github.com/apache/ignite/pull/3315
> > > > <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/ignite/pull/3315
> >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20 Dec 2017, at 23:15, Denis Magda <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> dmagda@apache.org
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Petr, thanks, such a swift turnaround!
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you found the one who can asses and
> > > review
> > > > >>>>>>> the
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> changes?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maintainers label might be helpful. Just
> > ping
> > > > >>>>>>> them
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> directly:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/How+
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> to+Contribute#HowtoContribute-ReviewProcessandMaintainers
> <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/
> > > > >>>>>>>>> confluence/display/IGNITE/How+
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> to+Contribute#HowtoContribute-ReviewProcessandMaintainers>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> —
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 2017, at 12:24 AM, Petr
> Ivanov
> > <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mr.weider@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Assigned myself — done the same work
> while
> > > > >>>>>>>> preparing
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> RPM
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> package.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But for fixing DEVNOTES.txt waiting for
> > > review
> > > > >>>>>>> and
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> merge
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IGNITE-7107 [1].
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/
> > > > >>>>>>>>> jira/browse/IGNITE-7107
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 19 Dec 2017, at 22:55, Denis Magda <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> dmagda@apache.org
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All the bids were accepted and the
> > verdict
> > > is
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> executed:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-7251
> > > > >>>>>>>>> <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/
> > > > jira/browse/IGNITE-7251>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who is ready to pick this up?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> —
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 19, 2017, at 5:35 AM, Anton
> > > > Vinogradov
> > > > >>>>>>> <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avinogradov@gridgain.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1б фо шур
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 9:59 AM,
> > Vladimir
> > > > >>>>>>>> Ozerov <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vozerov@gridgain.com>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1б вуаштшеудн
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 2:34 AM,
> > Valentin
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Kulichenko
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valentin.kulichenko@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 12:24 PM,
> > > Dmitriy
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Setrakyan
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dsetrakyan@apache.org
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 (completely agree)
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 10:21 AM,
> > Denis
> > > > >>>>>>>> Magda <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dmagda@apache.org>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igniters,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Ignite binary releases
> still
> > > > >>>>>>> include
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> “fabric”
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> word
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> names:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://ignite.apache.org/
> > > > >>>>>>>>> download.cgi#binaries
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://ignite.apache.org/
> > > > >>>>>>>>> download.cgi#binaries
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For instance, this is a full name
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> previous
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-ignite-fabric-2.3.0-bin.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It’s a little oversight on our
> side
> > > > >>>>>>> because
> > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> project
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positioned as a fabric for a
> while.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Proposal! Remove “fabric” from the
> > > name
> > > > >>>>>>> and
> > > > >>>>>>>>> have
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> binary
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releases
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> named
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as - apache-ignite-{version}-bin.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we’re in consensus then let’s
> > make
> > > > the
> > > > >>>>>>>>> change
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.4.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> —
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergey Kozlov
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GridGain Systems
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.gridgain.com
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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