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From Vladimir Ozerov <voze...@gridgain.com>
Subject Re: Bots on dev list
Date Mon, 10 Sep 2018 15:34:32 GMT
Folks,

If there will be a single thread for all failures, nobody will read it.
Simply because it will be always "unread", with tons of messages, where it
would be impossible to find a failure I am responsible for.
Several threads - on per suite - makes situation a bit better, but still
nobody will read it. What is worse, there will be a lot of fat threads atop
of all other threads, so e.g. the very first page of GMail will always be
filled with failure messages.

In order to make things comfortable and efficient, we should strive to make
messages as specific as possible, instead of grouping unrelated failures
into one thread. IMO we can solve the problem as follows:
1) Move bot messages to separate mailing list
2) Add personal contributor email addresses to that messages for easy
filtering
3) If needed - add *aggregate* email, sent once a day (or several days) to
dev list with all the issues.

This way, we first reach contributor directly. Then we send reminder to the
dev list, without flooding.

Thoughts?


On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 5:11 PM Alexey Kuznetsov <akuznetsov@apache.org>
wrote:

>  Dmitriy,
>
> I like your idea to add suite name.
>
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 5:42 PM Dmitriy Pavlov <dpavlov.spb@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Alexey,
> >
> > Thank you for that brilliant idea. Build ID was added intentionally to
> > separate topics. But for timeout failures, it creates odd topics.
> >
> > I would like to suggest a modification of the idea: What if we will
> include
> > a suite name instead of build ID. It will keep the context of suite
> > failures and fixes in one topic. E.g. recent problematic suite: Zookeeper
> > will originate 1 or 2 topics, and human reply to it will be kept together
> > with suite failure context. Please share your vision.
> >
> > Sincerely.
> > Dmitriy Pavlov
> >
> > пт, 7 сент. 2018 г. в 8:25, Alexey Kuznetsov <akuznetsov@apache.org>:
> >
> > > Dmitriy,
> > >
> > > How about to change e-mail subject
> > > from *[MTCGA]: new failures in builds [nnnnn] needs to be handled*
> > > to *[MTCGA]: new failures in builds needs to be handled* ?
> > >
> > > If subject will be the same it will not produce lots of threads on dev
> > list
> > > and it will be a single thread.
> > > What do you think?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Alexey Kuznetsov
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Alexey Kuznetsov
>

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