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From "David Brunette" <David.Brune...@chordiant.com>
Subject RE: [Proposal] JavaScript Popup Calendar
Date Tue, 25 Jul 2006 09:43:03 GMT
 
     OK thanks.  I did not interpret his comments that way initially, but I guess that makes
sense.  I'll move on...
 
Dave

________________________________

From: mfncooper@gmail.com on behalf of Martin Cooper
Sent: Tue 7/25/2006 1:17 AM
To: adffaces-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [Proposal] JavaScript Popup Calendar



On 7/24/06, Martin Marinschek <martin.marinschek@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hmm,
>
> I'm not sure about the license - he explicitly forbids to provide the
> component in JavaScript-library, and you could interpret the
> JavaScript support of MyFaces as a JavaScript library.


Right. We had issues with this over in Struts land, contacted Matt Kruse
directly, did not receive a favourable response, and so had to pull out the
code. I'd be very surprised if it was any different here.

--
Martin Cooper


regards,
>
> Martin
>
> On 7/24/06, David Brunette <David.Brunette@chordiant.com> wrote:
> >
> >      Hi everybody.
> >
> >      So I have been working on getting some sort of JavaScript Popup
> > Calendar into a Trinidad component.  I've looked into a couple of
> > options.  The Dojo calendar proved to be quite difficult to integrate
> > into a Trinidad component, especially around the value binding to a
> > property in a backing bean, and I was never actually able to get it
> > working.  On top of that difficulty, I question the ability to skin and
> > internationalize that component.  So I moved on...
> >
> >      I've come across a very nice JavaScript Date Picker that was
> > written by somebody else and put up on the web for public use.  You can
> > see examples and the source at:
> >
> > http://www.mattkruse.com/javascript/calendarpopup/
> >
> >      I have put this into the standard SelectInputDate component with
> > much success.  It is very easy to use with other Trinidad features, it
> > is skinable, internationalize-able, satisfies some of the requirements
> > mentioned thus far (i.e., disable weekends, select only month & year,
> > ...), and is rather flexible in how it can be used, which you can see in
> > the examples on the website.  As far as licensing, the comments in his
> > source file seem to indicate that we are free to use it as we please, so
> > I suppose the blessing from the author is all that is needed.
> >
> >      Please have a look at the examples in the URL pasted above.  I am
> > interested in any thoughts/concerns about using this for our JavaScript
> > Popup Calendar.
> >
> >      Thanks...
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Martin Marinschek [mailto:martin.marinschek@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 5:42 PM
> > To: adffaces-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [Proposal] JavaScript Popup Calendar
> >
> > Prepare it for Trinidad - I'll have a look at it when it's finished,
> > and will take it over for tomahawk if I like it!
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > On 7/14/06, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org> wrote:
> > > On 7/14/06, Dan Robinson <dannyjrobinson@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > However, I'm lost in the to-and-fro's of podling, merging tomahawk,
> > etc.
> > > > Was anything decided?  Where do you want this stuff to go, or do we
> > work
> > > > alone until we have something ready?
> > >
> > > not yet. The merge is not a "from day to day" thing.
> > > For now, we don't have a solution for that stuff.
> > >
> > > Matt
> > >
> > > > D.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 7/8/06, Adam Winer <awiner@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Does the Dojo datepicker support internationalization?  This is a
> > > > > must-have.
> > > > > I tried switching my browser to French but it still came up in
> > English.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, I'd be -1 on adding something if it couldn't support
> > Trinidad
> > > > > skinning.
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Adam
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/8/06, Matthias Wessendorf < matzew@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How do you call this ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > http://dojotoolkit.org/~dylan/dojo/tests/widget/demo_DatePicker.html
> > > > >
> > <http://dojotoolkit.org/%7Edylan/dojo/tests/widget/demo_DatePicker.html>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 7/8/06, Martin Marinschek <martin.marinschek@gmail.com
>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > yeah, dojo would be great - but dojo doesn't have a popup
> > calendar so
> > > > > > far!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 7/8/06, Matthias Wessendorf < matzew@apache.org>
wrote:
> > > > > > > >  cool to hear martin,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > what's up, should we both take a look at dojo?
> > > > > > > > (the xml way)?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 7/7/06, Martin Marinschek < martin.marinschek@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > One thing more - I don't like the javascript
codebase of
> > the
> > > > > current
> > > > > > > > > tomahawk calendar, just to put this into the
discussion.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So if someone comes up with a better solution
(and the
> > same or
> > > > > > better
> > > > > > > > > functionality) I'll happily put this component
into
> > tomahawk as
> > > > > > well.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 7/7/06, Matthias Wessendorf < matzew@apache.org
>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > More...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > at ApacheCon Bernd and me also discussed
about, what's
> > with the
> > > > > > tobago
> > > > > > > > > > code base. Stuff like upload can be *unified*
for all
> > these
> > > > > three
> > > > > > libs.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -Matthias
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 7/7/06, Matthias Wessendorf < matzew@apache.org
>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Mike
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 7/7/06, Mike Kienenberger < mkienenb@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Moving to dev.....
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > good idea
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Well, not to be a pain about it,
but the inability
> > of some
> > > > > > users to
> > > > > > > > > > > > use a released product like Tomahawk
shouldn't be
> > driving
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > development decisions of a podling.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > sure!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The need to have a popup calendar
looks like a
> > perfect trial
> > > > > > run of
> > > > > > > > > > > > merging the two code bases, and
I'd hate to see
> > someone go
> > > > > out
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > reinvent the popup calendar "wheel"
yet another time
> > when
> > > > > > we've
> > > > > > > > > > > > already got two or three of them.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > sure, popup cal. is just a *simple*
example of that.
> > > > > > > > > > > We have a wiki for identifing some
task. Feel free to
> > add
> > > > > > content.
> > > > > > > > > > > (see [1]).
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Realistically, merging the two
is probably going to
> > be more
> > > > > a
> > > > > > matter
> > > > > > > > > > > > of porting Tomahawk components
over to Trinidad than
> > the
> > > > > other
> > > > > > way
> > > > > > > > > > > > around, I'm guessing, so maybe
I'm arguing over
> > semantics.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, sorta. The Trinidad podling for
instance has
> > already
> > > > > > > > > > > *buid-in*support for Facelets. Tomahawk
has also some
> > goodies.
> > > > > > This
> > > > > > > > > > > task (merging) won't be a short one
(IMO)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -Matt
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > [1]
> > > > > >
> > http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/ADF_Faces/Identify_components_to_merge_in
> > to_Tomahawk_Shared
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/7/06, Matthias Wessendorf
< matzew@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Mike,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > yes that is the goal. but
for some reasons user's
> > won't /
> > > > > > can't use
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomahawk (or MyFaces) in
their production. I think
> > that
> > > > > was
> > > > > > the reason
> > > > > > > > > > > > > for this thread. Creating
a custom one on top of
> > the
> > > > > > Trinidad Podling
> > > > > > > > > > > > > is ok for me. For the tomahawk
stuff, we should
> > take a
> > > > > look
> > > > > > at Dojo
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ([1]). On the ApacheCon I
saw that they have now
> > "xml
> > > > > > namespaces",
> > > > > > > > > > > > > means <dojo:wiget ...
/> instead of *hacking* JS.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I know some projects, that
are not allowed to use
> > MyFaces;
> > > > > > they stick
> > > > > > > > > > > > > with IBM or the RI.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -Matthias
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [1]
> > > > > >
> > http://dojotoolkit.org/~dylan/dojo/tests/widget/demo_DatePicker.html<htt
> > p://dojotoolkit.org/%7Edylan/dojo/tests/widget/demo_DatePicker.html>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/7/06, Mike Kienenberger
< mkienenb@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could someone refresh
my memory?  Was the
> > eventual goal
> > > > > to
> > > > > > merge
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Trinidad and Tomahawk?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If so, I think creating
Yet Another Popup
> > Calendar
> > > > > rather
> > > > > > than making
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the existing tomahawk
popup calendars play nice
> > with
> > > > > > Trinidad is a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > step in the wrong direction.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, I could be
off-base on the eventual
> > goal for
> > > > > > these two libraries.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/7/06, Adam Winer
< awiner@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would definitely
be of interest!  (IMO, it
> > would
> > > > > need
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > handle internationalization
and localization -
> > I'd
> > > > > like
> > > > > > to keep Trinidad
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consistent in this
regard.)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Adam
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/7/06, Dan
Robinson <
> > dannyjrobinson@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a quick
prompt to see if there is
> > interest in
> > > > > > such a feature.  We may
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have capacity
to contribute.  I see this
> > being
> > > > > > rendered in 'inaccessible'
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mode only,
perhaps instead of the window'ed
> > calendar
> > > > > -
> > > > > > thoughts.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6/29/06,
Dan Robinson <
> > dannyjrobinson@gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
Ernst.  We're really trying not to
> > stray
> > > > > from
> > > > > > Trinidad as a core
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > library.
 However, I do like the look of
> > the
> > > > > > Tomahawk version, so that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > make
a very good start.  I guess I'm
> > looking for
> > > > > > guidance as to where
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would
fit and how it would be configured -
> > and
> > > > > > indeed if people think
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Trinidad
needs one!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6/29/06,
Ernst Fastl <
> > ernst.fastl@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
There is a calendar with a JS-Popup mode
> > in the
> > > > > > tomahawk-component
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
library.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Take a look at:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
http://www.irian.at/myfaces/calendar.jsf
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Maybe you can use this one, or at least
> > if you
> > > > > > want to implement
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
something
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
similar in trinidad learn from this one.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
regards
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Ernst
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
On 6/29/06, Dan Robinson
> > <dannyjrobinson@gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> Would there be interest in a 3rd
> > calendar mode
> > > > > > whereby it popsup a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> JavaScript calendar, rather than just
> > the
> > > > > inline
> > > > > > and windowed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
versions?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> If so, is there one out there that
> > people
> > > > > would
> > > > > > like to see as the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
basis on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> which to build?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> Danny
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Matthias Wessendorf
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > futher stuff:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> > > > > > > > > > > > > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > Matthias Wessendorf
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > futher stuff:
> > > > > > > > > > > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> > > > > > > > > > > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Matthias Wessendorf
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > futher stuff:
> > > > > > > > > > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> > > > > > > > > > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > --
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > futher stuff:
> > > > > > > > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> > > > > > > > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Matthias Wessendorf
> > > > > >
> > > > > > futher stuff:
> > > > > > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> > > > > > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > www.chordiant.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Matthias Wessendorf
> > >
> > > further stuff:
> > > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> > > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > http://www.irian.at
> >
> > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > Courses in English and German
> >
> > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >
>
>
> --
>
> http://www.irian.at
>
> Your JSF powerhouse -
> JSF Consulting, Development and
> Courses in English and German
>
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