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From "Geir Magnusson Jr." <>
Subject TIMEOUT (Re: [wadi-dev] Fwd: Move to Geronimo Incubator - PAUSED.)
Date Tue, 20 Dec 2005 16:20:53 GMT
Before this spins too far out of control, lets all take a breath.

Clearly Jules sees problems.  Clearly the rest would have preferred a  
more collaborative and community approach to solving them.

Lets try to find something in between.  Ok?

I just created the WADI project in JIRA.  Jules, you need to create a  
JIRA account.  Then we should put our issues in there, so we can get  
working on them.  Otherwise, we don't know what to do....


On Dec 20, 2005, at 10:54 AM, Jules Gosnell wrote:

> Bruce Snyder wrote:
>> On 12/20/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <> wrote:
>>> Taking another run at this...
>>> What's the issue w/ Geronimo 1.0?  That's almost done, and the last
>>> thing *that* project needs is more changes at this point.  So really
>>> - what's the real issue here?
>>> One thing that's different about ASF projects is that there isn't a
>>> Despot by name.  There are "Despot"-like people by community  
>>> respect,
>>> and they simply are able to voice concerns and convince people that
>>> the way they wish to go is the right way.  You are such a person -
>>> you can voice your concerns, and we'll discuss and react.
>>> In this case, you just tried to take control - IMO, you can't  
>>> here at
>>> the incubator.  In a sense, you are forking it back to Codehaus.
>>> This would be a terrible outcome.
>>> I didn't know the issues you raised (maybe I should have) and am
>>> happy to help do what I can to get them fixed.  So, please - re- 
>>> think
>>> this and lets get things sorted and squared away now...
>> Well said, Geir. Speaking as a member of the sponsoring PMC,
>> completely stopping the move and reverting to the Codeahaus CVS repo
>> at this point will not look good to the Incubator. Here's a  
>> suggestion
>> - rather than stopping the entire move, how about we identify
>> outstanding issues, create JIRA tasks for each of them and begin
>> dividing up the work? I believe we can fix every single one of these
>> issues in a day or two.
> Hi Bruce,
> No-one is 'stopping and reverting'. I am pausing until I consider  
> that everything required for the move is in place.
> If you would like to work through the issues that I have outlined,  
> that would be great, but I would rather that people put testing and  
> documenting the Geronimo integration at the top of their lists at  
> the moment. Geronimo-1.0's release is imminent and important. We  
> have as long as we like to complete the move to the incubator. Why  
> such a rush into the incubator ?
> Jules
>> Bruce
>> --
>> perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D 
>> \!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
>> );'
>> The Castor Project
>> Apache Geronimo
> -- 
> "Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of
> string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-system
> crystallises out around it."
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Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437

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