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From "Alan D. Cabrera" <>
Subject Re: Next Steps for Project Yoko : A Proposal
Date Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:05:11 GMT

On Nov 15, 2007, at 3:21 PM, Lars K├╝hne wrote:

> Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>> Lars, we are splitting the project to be housed as sub-projects of  
>> Geronimo and CXF.  We are not graduating per se.
> I'm confused. Can an incubating project run outside the control of  
> the incubator PMC?

This is a good question and I think that you may not know that there  
are several paths that startup projects can go.

- a project can start in the Incubator with the goal of being its own  
Top Level Project (TLP)
- a project can start as a sub-project of an existing TLP

Governance of an incubator project is under its pre-PMC with ultimate  
responsibility going to the incubator PMC.  Governance of the TLP sub- 
project is under the TLP PMC.

The proposed split-up of Yoko is the realization that while it is  
important, actually critical, to many of Apache's projects, it is not  
likely to generate an active diverse community.  Note, moving to  
Geronimo does not preclude Yoko from breaking out into its own TLP  
should an active diverse community come into being.


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