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From "Chaudhuri, Hiran" <Hiran.Chaudh...@softwareag.com>
Subject RE: IMAP status?
Date Thu, 16 May 2002 21:22:00 GMT
Hi, Serge.

What I forgot to tell: Once the message is converted to a sensible XML
document, I can use XQuery to make Tamino search it.

Hiran

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Hiran Chaudhuri
SAG Systemhaus GmbH
Elsenheimerstra?e 11
80687 Munchen
Germany
Hiran.Chaudhuri@softwareag.com
Phone +49-89-54742-134
Fax   +49-6151-9234-5134

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Serge Knystautas [mailto:sergek@lokitech.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:24 PM
> To: James Developers List
> Subject: Re: IMAP status?
> 
> 
> Hiran,
> 
> Well, is Tamino aware of the mime format?  I assume that even if a 
> repository has indexing services, it won't know how to break 
> apart the 
> message and have the different search terms work against the 
> appropriate 
> parts of the message.
> 
> I'm not exactly sure how the interface would work, but I was 
> thinking it 
> would be an extension or in addition to the current 
> MailRepository.  I 
> would like to continue to have a db, file, tamino, filemem, 
> or whatever 
> repository on the backend.  Figuring out the inheritance issue isn't 
> going to be fun, so I have to think through some design 
> patterns to see 
> how to best reuse the repository code we already have.
> -- 
> Serge Knystautas
> Loki Technologies - Unstoppable Websites
> http://www.lokitech.com/
> 
> Chaudhuri, Hiran wrote:
> > Hi Serge.
> > 
> > You again?
> > 
> > It was some indexing and retrieval reason that made me 
> create the Tamino
> > mail repository. With the XML database in the back, a 
> search on mails/news
> > can be done easily and fast.
> > 
> > I believe such functionality should not be implemented in 
> James but the
> > different repositories by themselves, and the 
> MailRepository interface
> > should privide a way to access this implementation. That way you can
> > integrate Lucene for indexing but still allow other implementations.
> > 
> > What I also might find useful is a SearchableRepository, which just
> > implements some indexing/retrieval (maybe with Lucene) and 
> actually stores
> > the messages to another repository. This way it can be 
> applied to any other
> > repository implementation (same as I suggested for the 
> caching repository).
> > I somehow love the way Avalon plugs the components together......
> > 
> > Hiran
> > 
> > -----------------------------------------
> > Hiran Chaudhuri
> > SAG Systemhaus GmbH
> > Elsenheimerstra?e 11
> > 80687 Munchen
> > Germany
> > Hiran.Chaudhuri@softwareag.com
> > Phone +49-89-54742-134
> > Fax   +49-6151-9234-5134
> > 
> > 
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Serge Knystautas [mailto:sergek@lokitech.com]
> >>Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 1:35 PM
> >>To: James Developers List
> >>Subject: Re: IMAP status?
> >>
> >>
> >>Thanks Darrell.  I haven't had as much time this weekend as 
> >>I'd hoped, 
> >>but I do hope to at least start looking into things.  As for the 
> >>FETCH/SEARCH functionality, I was thinking about using Lucene to do 
> >>automatic indexing of the appropriate parts of messages... 
> >>had you given 
> >>much thought to the search stuff yet?  I'm fine droping the 
> ACL stuff 
> >>for now... I'd rather get a version 1.0 out, and hope that we can 
> >>refactor that when we have something workable that will 
> attract more 
> >>developer interest.
> >>
> >>Hopefully later today I'll get a chance to get into the code 
> >>and prepare 
> >>some questions and/or lay out what I think I can start working on.
> >>-- 
> >>Serge Knystautas
> >>Loki Technologies - Unstoppable Websites
> >>http://www.lokitech.com/
> >>
> >>Darrell DeBoer wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Fri, 3 May 2002 07:13, Serge Knystautas wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Does anybody know the status of the IMAP code?  After 
> going over the
> >>>>Avalon upgrade changes this weekend, I was hoping to try 
> to get into
> >>>>that code but wasn't sure if the code is in any way 
> >>>
> >>testable.  Anyone
> >>
> >>>>tried it lately?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Hi Serge,
> >>>
> >>>I'm pretty sure I was the last one to delve in there.... 
> >>
> >>Unfortunately (for 
> >>
> >>>the IMAP proposal, anyway), I've been sidetracked working 
> >>
> >>on the Myrmidon 
> >>
> >>>Ant2 proposal, which is taking up all of my Jakarta time presently.
> >>>
> >>>When I finished up, I'd done some heavy refactoring of the 
> >>
> >>command processing 
> >>
> >>>design, to break it down into separate classes for each 
> >>
> >>command. I'd also 
> >>
> >>>simplified things a bunch by ignoring the ACL stuff, and 
> >>
> >>changing the way the 
> >>
> >>>namespaces map to the set of mailboxes. This was based on 
> >>
> >>my interpretaion of 
> >>
> >>>the RFC, but is a bit different to the way Charles had it 
> >>
> >>working - I can 
> >>
> >>>furnish more details if you like.
> >>>
> >>>I wrote some tests, and had a bunch of commands 
> >>
> >>functioning, including LIST, 
> >>
> >>>CREATE, DELETE and a couple of others. FETCH was the next 
> >>
> >>thing to get 
> >>
> >>>working, IIRC. 
> >>>
> >>>To be honest, if you've got some time to dive in and start 
> >>
> >>working on it, I 
> >>
> >>>think I might find a little time to join you. It's just 
> >>
> >>that I have little 
> >>
> >>>need for an IMAP server myself, and with no-one else 
> >>
> >>working on it to keep me 
> >>
> >>>interested, I sort of let it slip... 
> 
> 
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