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From "Danny Angus" <da...@apache.org>
Subject RE: Next question.. (was: Should we remove ant? )
Date Thu, 15 Aug 2002 21:53:46 GMT
Yeah, I'm open minded about Forrest and Maven,

I'm looking for domain engineering tools (for work) just now, as well as
considering James web-site, and I can see how Forrest and Gump fit my
requirements for domain engineering tools, but as far as James website is
concerned my only reqirements were..

1/ direct, unintrusive, replacement for anakia to build our existing
site(although I've moved it to straight XSLT at the moment, so it doesnt
depend on anything but ant right now)

2/ shallow learning curve and tidy results for lazy non-style-conscious site
authors/maintainers.

Maven also provides (as you'll see in the demo) some primitive metrics, by
file and by commiter, and an auto generated changelog, all of which I liked.

Forrest, correct me if I'm wrong, would provide better support for complex
document sets, domain level management of sub-domain document sets no
metrics and require greater initial effort.

I cant find a "getting started" for Forrest, and to be honest I don't think
James simple requirements merit the expenditure of much effort, just a
simple route to a coherent generated style, co-ordinated with other jakarta
sub-projects.

d.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:noel@devtech.com]
> Sent: 15 August 2002 19:59
> To: James Developers List
> Subject: RE: Next question.. (was: Should we remove ant? )
>
>
> > > I wonder why the Maven folks and Forrest folks don't get together, so
> that
> > > Maven can focus on all of the backend project management, and Forrest
> can
> > > focus on publishing the web content.
>
> > B'cos that'd destroy all the infighting, bitchin', sniping and
> spoil half
> > the fun.. ;-)
>
> I'm laughing, but also serious.  Maven's primary focus is project
> management, not web content; and Forrest's primary focus is web
> content, not
> project management.  They would make an great pairing.  Since Nico is here
> talking about Forrest, and is one of the maintainers on Forrest,
> I'd really
> like to hear his thoughts.
>
> 	--- Noel
>
>
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