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From "Danny Angus" <da...@apache.org>
Subject FW: ConnectorJ and Apache
Date Mon, 18 Nov 2002 09:52:36 GMT
Hi,

Prompted by a request on the James-dev list for us to upgrade the bundled mm.mysql JDBC drive
to the new mysql connectorJ driver I followed up an earlier conversation I'd had with Mark
Mathews regarding licence issues.
Here FYI is the mail I sent to MySQL and the response I got. It seems (if I read it correctly)
that they may, as copyright holders, be moving towards making specific statements allowing
specific bundling under the ASFL.
If this mail would also be worth discussing elsewhere perhaps someone could let me know where.

d.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Axmark 
> Sent: 17 November 2002 13:24
> To: Danny Angus
> Cc: Mark Matthews
> Subject: Re: ConnectorJ and Apache
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 13:46, Danny Angus wrote:
> > David,
> 
> > I got your address a while ago from Mark, to contact regarding licence
> >  issues. Several months ago I mailed Mark about the mm.mysql licence
> >  and LGPL, to clarify his position wrt the driver being bundled under
> >  the ASF licence, and was satisfied that we (Apache jakarta-james) were
> >  doing the right thing.
> > 
> > I understand that since this effort has been subsumed by mysql the
> >  driver, under the ConnectorJ name, will only be availabe under the
> >  GPL.
> 
> Correct.
> 
> > As you may know it is considered by the FSF that the GPL and ASFL are
> >  incompatible. I'm not sure exactly why, but wondered what possibility
> >  there would be for releasing ConnectorJ under the LGPL, or a BSD style
> >  licence like the ASFL.
> 
> We will not release it under a more permissive license since we rely on
> the GPL for our dual licensing. But what we do not want to allow is to
> include MySQL in proprietary packages (not not commercial/uncommercial,
> the price does not make a difference).
> 
> So the goal for us is to be more permissive than the default GPL.
> Basically we want to allow our GPL code to be mixed with code from any
> OSI (open source initiative, opensource.org). But our demans is that all
> code in the projects our software is used is under a OSI license so we
> do have a stronger demand than a BSD or ASF license.
> 
> > Without this I'm afraid that Apache projects may be unable to continue
> > to bundle the driver, which would be a shame.
> 
> No that is not the only solution, we are the sole copyright holders of
> the driver. So we can make a public statement that we allow the use with
> the Apache license. I have discussed this with Richard Stallman and we
> are allowed to do this.
> 
> I will get something about our stand into the next release or (in the
> worst case since I do not know the release schedule) the release after
> that of the driver.
> 
> /David


d.


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