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From "Danny Angus" <da...@apache.org>
Subject RE: Forrest-made James test site - sneak preview
Date Fri, 22 Nov 2002 10:48:28 GMT
I agree with some of the visual issues Noel has, but generally I like it.
I guess it depends how easy it is to maintain.. 

the Great Joy of the current system is that its a simple XSLT transformation we have one XSL
stylesheet and a single ant-task to create the html from the xml.

d.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nicola Ken Barozzi [mailto:nicolaken@apache.org]
> Sent: 22 November 2002 09:18
> To: James Developers List
> Subject: Re: Forrest-made James test site - sneak preview
> 
> 
> 
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > Nicola,
> > 
> > What options exist to make it look more visually appealing?  
> 
> Make a skin for it :-)
> 
> > Maybe it is
> > just me, but when I compare the Forrest-made test site to 
> Danny's Maven-made
> > test site at http://jakarta.apache.org/~danny/, I prefer the look of the
> > latter.
> > 
> > Specifics:
> > 
> >   - I prefer the smaller font size
> >   - I prefer the narrower menu, leaving
> >     a wider main area, and less scrolling
> 
>       Yes, this is not nice now.
> 
> >   - I prefer having section headings
> >   - The intra-page section anchors are nice,
> >     but not at the expense of everything else.
> > 
> > YMMV, but those are my immediate visual responses.  And I am 
> assuming that
> > all of that is tunable. 
> 
> It is :-)
> 
> > Please compare the two sites, and let me know what
> > you think.  :-)
> 
> Actually, it's really difficult for me to see which is best, since both 
> are nice skins and have a very different "taste". Forrest skin is more 
> "book"-like.
> 
> Forrest is easily skinnable, so you all can decide if you want the 
> Tigris skin, the Forrest one, a mix of the two or something elso.
> For example, look at the Avalon site http://jakarta.apache.org/avalon/ 
> (link put for easy jumping) as an example of a Forrest skin similar to 
> the tigris one but not quite.
> 
> Let's see what other think and what they prefer. If you change the page 
> HTML of the Forrest one, for example, to suit better your taste, and 
> other agree on it, I would be happy to port it in a skin for you.
> 
> Look for example at the new Krysalis skin example 
> http://www.krysalis.org/testdir/index.html to see an adaption of the 
> Forrest skin.
> 
> 
> > 	--- Noel
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nicola Ken Barozzi [mailto:nicolaken@apache.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 18:35
> > To: James Developers List
> > Subject: Forrest-made James test site - sneak preview
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > As promised, I've set up a Forrestized version of the James website.
> > The original XML is not yet 100% validating, so there are still things
> > to tweak, but it's basically there.
> > 
> > Enjoy!
> > 
> > http://cvs.apache.org/~nicolaken/james/
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Nicola Ken Barozzi                   nicolaken@apache.org
>              - verba volant, scripta manent -
>     (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
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