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From "Danny Angus" <danny.an...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Experimental Handler Branch
Date Wed, 03 Jan 2007 22:59:43 GMT
As I'm being quoted please read my comment at the bottom...

On 1/2/07, Stefano Bagnara <apache@bago.org> wrote:
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > I see all of the work here, and Norman explained on Skype what he and
> > Stefano are doing, but this is not the way that we develop code.  Please
> > correct me if I am wrong, but I do not see a single message, much less a
> > discussion, of the ideas, plans, etc., for this code.
...

> On 28/10/2006 Danny said about the "sandbox/mailet-refactorings" branch:
> ------
>  > Compromise my ass, this is my sandbox fork Muahahahh ! ;-)
>  > What I mean is, this project doesn't have to achieve consensus itself,
>  > as long as it helps us to understand what the underlying problems are
>  > which have resulted in no agreement for such a long time.
>  > After this fork is all done we won't have Mailet v3, we'll have a plan
>  > for Mailet v3, which might well include decisions which still need to
>  > be bottomed out.
>  >
>  > d.
> ------
> I replied to him
> -----
>  > ++1 You know I'm a fan of "code based proposals".
>  > I just put a "beware the DI fanatics" and a "beware the JNDI haters"
>  > signs near your sandbox :-P
> -----
>
> I worked on that sandbox with that spirit. Work toward something
> concrete to propose. If you have "signs" to put near this sandbox I will
> be really happy to read them.
>
> I preferred to avoid discussing the technical thing too much on the list
> because I had no idea of what I would have done there.

I believe that proposals thrashed out in the sandbox area are good,
and can go places where we wouldn't want James to go, they can ask
more questions than they answer.

But... this project does still exist through the mailing lists, and
experiments in the sandbox don't really mean much unless they at least
start or end in discussions on the list.

I'm 100% in favour of people demonstrating and experimenting in the
sandbox, but please remember that the purpose is to illustrate or
provoke discussions on the list.

d.

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