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From Norman Maurer <nor...@apache.org>
Subject Re: JAMES Projects on Hudson
Date Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:27:00 GMT
Am Montag, den 04.08.2008, 18:13 +0200 schrieb Stefano Bagnara:
> Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto:
> > On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Stefano Bagnara <apache@bago.org> wrote:
> >> Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto:
> >>> On 7/28/08, Norman Maurer <norman@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>> Am Sonntag, den 27.07.2008, 22:20 +0200 schrieb Stefano Bagnara:
> >>>>> Is there any mailing list notification?
> >>>> I not enabled it yet because I wanted to talk about it first on ml.
> >>>> MAybe we should add a new ml for the notifications so we don't flood
the
> >>>> dev list ?
> >>> Providing that mail is only sent on failure, I think this list should
> >>> be ok. If we need to reduce traffic all the admin stuff (commits, JIRA
> >>> etc) should be moved together. We've had 600ish messages this month so
> >>> maybe that's worth considering.
> >> Moving "admin stuff" to a separate list could help not loosing important
> >> discussion and procedural threads between svn committs and JIRA updates.
> >>
> >> On the other hand we tend to mix discussions in JIRA and the mailing list so
> >> we should agree on the way to deal with it before planning a switch, IMHO.
> > 
> > set an appropriate reply-to usually works ok for most clients
> 
> My concern was about discussions happening via JIRA comments, they would 
> not go through the discussion list, but only the admin list. Currently a 
> JIRA comment is the substitute for a mailing list post. If we move JIRA 
> notifications to an admin list beside svn comments they will loose 
> visibility to developers not subscribed to the notification list.
> 
> >> If only JIRA could track mailing list messages having its identifiers in the
> >> subject the same way it deals with svn commit I would be happy to move all
> >> discussions out of JIRA, but ATM I think slow discussions about specific
> >> issues are better handled in JIRA because they are better organized and
> >> tracked and they serve as future reference when people will look at the same
> >> issue again in the next years. We have experience of issues discussed
> >> multiple times and open since years.
> > 
> > might be worth raising this on infra
> 
> I searched the internet. I see that a similar plugin does not exists. 
> There is a JIRA-NNTP bridge, but there is no NNTP server for ASF lists, 
> so it is not an option. Weird, indeed, I thought it was something more 
> used/requested around the world.
> 
> >> Maybe we could move svn commits and the notifications to their own list as a
> >> first step while keep JIRAs on server-dev... WDYT?
> > 
> > fine by me
> 
> What is the list name used by other projects in this cases?
> notifications@james.a.o?
> 
> Stefano

What about raising a jia feature request ? This sounds like something
wich could be interessting for more people...


Cheers,
Norman


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