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From Stefano Bagnara <apa...@bago.org>
Subject Re: JAMES Projects on Hudson
Date Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:35:47 GMT
Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto:
> On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Norman Maurer <norman@apache.org> wrote:
>> Am Montag, den 04.08.2008, 18:13 +0200 schrieb Stefano Bagnara:
>>> Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto:
>>>> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Stefano Bagnara <apache@bago.org> wrote:
>>>>> Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto:
>>>>>> On 7/28/08, Norman Maurer <norman@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> Am Sonntag, den 27.07.2008, 22:20 +0200 schrieb Stefano Bagnara:
>>>>>>>> Is there any mailing list notification?
>>>>>>> I not enabled it yet because I wanted to talk about it first
on ml.
>>>>>>> MAybe we should add a new ml for the notifications so we don't
flood the
>>>>>>> dev list ?
>>>>>> Providing that mail is only sent on failure, I think this list should
>>>>>> be ok. If we need to reduce traffic all the admin stuff (commits,
JIRA
>>>>>> etc) should be moved together. We've had 600ish messages this month
so
>>>>>> maybe that's worth considering.
>>>>> Moving "admin stuff" to a separate list could help not loosing important
>>>>> discussion and procedural threads between svn committs and JIRA updates.
>>>>>
>>>>> On the other hand we tend to mix discussions in JIRA and the mailing
list so
>>>>> we should agree on the way to deal with it before planning a switch,
IMHO.
>>>> set an appropriate reply-to usually works ok for most clients
>>> My concern was about discussions happening via JIRA comments, they would
>>> not go through the discussion list, but only the admin list. Currently a
>>> JIRA comment is the substitute for a mailing list post. If we move JIRA
>>> notifications to an admin list beside svn comments they will loose
>>> visibility to developers not subscribed to the notification list.
>>>
>>>>> If only JIRA could track mailing list messages having its identifiers
in the
>>>>> subject the same way it deals with svn commit I would be happy to move
all
>>>>> discussions out of JIRA, but ATM I think slow discussions about specific
>>>>> issues are better handled in JIRA because they are better organized and
>>>>> tracked and they serve as future reference when people will look at the
same
>>>>> issue again in the next years. We have experience of issues discussed
>>>>> multiple times and open since years.
>>>> might be worth raising this on infra
>>> I searched the internet. I see that a similar plugin does not exists.
>>> There is a JIRA-NNTP bridge, but there is no NNTP server for ASF lists,
>>> so it is not an option. Weird, indeed, I thought it was something more
>>> used/requested around the world.
>>>
>>>>> Maybe we could move svn commits and the notifications to their own list
as a
>>>>> first step while keep JIRAs on server-dev... WDYT?
>>>> fine by me
>>> What is the list name used by other projects in this cases?
>>> notifications@james.a.o?
>>>
>>> Stefano
>> What about raising a jia feature request ? This sounds like something
>> wich could be interessting for more people...
> 
> +1
> 
> apache has good contacts at atlassian

What's the way to make this contacts work? Who should we talk to?

I don't believe that a feature request from me in the "JIRA's JIRA" will 
have any chance to produce something useful, unless we have a different 
path....

Stefano

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