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From Bernd Fondermann <bf_...@brainlounge.de>
Subject Re: Status of trunk [WAS: Re: [jira] Commented: (JAMES-876) cannot start as spring-deployment when built from trunk as described in HOW-TO.TXT]
Date Wed, 01 Oct 2008 06:48:30 GMT
Stefano Bagnara wrote:
> Bernd Fondermann ha scritto:
>> Stefano Bagnara (JIRA) wrote:
>>>     [
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JAMES-876?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12635775#action_12635775
>>> ]
>>> Stefano Bagnara commented on JAMES-876:
>>> ---------------------------------------
>>>
>>> @Joerg: yes, imap (and mailboxmanager stuff belongs to imap) has been
>>> moved out from server tree to its own module.
>>> Now imap is no more in the source tree but is included with jars  in
>>> stage/org.apache.james/jars/ folder. In the mean time many classes
>>> have been repackaged so it probably is incomplete yet.
>> Mmmh. Who's going to fix it, then?
> 
> Anyone with commit rights. Or even people with no commit rights by
> submitting patches.
> 
>> Or maybe we should roll back some
>> weeks?
> 
> If you think something should be rolled back just propose it.
> 
>> Anyway, I'd like to have a compiling and (at least barely)
>> running trunk. Really. At the moment this all looks a little bit like
>> deconstruction work.
> 
> There is an ongoing work. Robert just made a big refactoring by moving
> out IMAP.
> 
> I've done some update after the repackaging in imap to make sure the
> trunk was building.
> 
> All of our trunks build fine in my environment and in hudson.
> 
> If you want trunk to always work then we should start using branches for
> r/evolutionary changes and merge back once in a while. AFAICT Robert is
> against this kind of workflow, so feel free to find an agreement with him.
> 
> Another option is to put your hands fixing things that do not work for
> your kindly asking for help when you don't understand what to do ;-)
> 
>> There are other trunks which do not build for me
>> either. Hopefully it turns out to be just a local problem. I follow up
>> with details as soon as I have a minute to concentrate on that.
> 
> Just take your time and feel free to fix things. Everyone hands are
> needed there to shape the next james.

At first, I apologize. My original comments were too harsh.

But, you know, I am used to a development process where when I change 
something I try to test the overall application, if it still works. And 
by working I mean it not only builds without errors but it starts 
without failures and does some actual useful things. I don't rely on CI 
or any other tool alone. And if I break something, I feel very 
responsible to fix it.

But probably that's just me ;-)

   Bernd

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