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From Steve Brewin <sbre...@synsys.com>
Subject Re: Notes on JAMES-1352 Commits
Date Sun, 18 Dec 2011 11:38:40 GMT
Hi Eric

Even when deployed in highly resilient infrastructures with multiple 
LDAP servers there is a need to retry in the case where the server 
connected to fails. In this scenario, a single instantaneous retry is 

In less resilient infrastructures, retry provides a greater level of 
resilience. Retrying over a defined duration offers an alternative to 
having to recycle James should the LDAP server become temporarily 

The former is common, see Tomcat's JNDI Realm. The latter easy to 
provide once support for the former is added. So why not?


On 18/12/2011 11:09, Eric Charles wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> I will take more time in the next days to comment on:
> - Why do we need some retry (I know you asked the question before and 
> I didn't answer by lack of time - just curious to further discuss, 
> won't ask for any revert :).
> - I saw util maven project more for utility classes, without any 
> further structure.
> Stay tuned.
> Thx,
> Eric
> On 13/12/11 12:09, Steve Brewin wrote:
>> Hi
>> Yesterday I committed fixes for JAMES-1352 "Increase the robustness of
>> org.apache.james.userldap.ReadOnlyUsersLDAPRepository". A few design
>> questions arise from this.
>> Aside from a little house-keeping, the only changes to the
>> org.apache.james.userldap package are:
>> - The introduction of a retryable LDAP context via a proxy class.
>> - Authorization uses a reconnect() on a new instance of the existing
>> LdapContext, thereby propagating all other Context related settings.
>> - All retry functionality is implemented in
>> org.apache.james.util.retry.* packages as this retry functionality is
>> generic and reusable. In fact, there are no references to other James
>> packages here.
>> Q1: Are there any objections to factoring the generic behaviour into
>> org.apache.james.util. as done here? If so, we can repackage. Where else
>> should it live?
>> Q2: I've introduced interfaces into the maven james-server-util project.
>> Some, but not all, other projects have been split to separate classes
>> from interfaces. Do we need to do this here? Or should we wait until the
>> interfaces are actually used outside of the james-server-util project?
>> Cheers
>> Steve
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