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From Eric Charles <e...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Capture IMAP events for use in our CRM
Date Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:39:28 GMT
I don't know much from spring integration, but it will probably not fit 
our existing event system.

On 30/01/12 10:14, Dhrubo wrote:
> Can we use something like an integration pack for example Spring
> integration which has spring imap support? But offcourse event is required.
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 2:08 PM, lclhst<l0c4lh0st.dump@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>> Does anybody have any input to this?
>>
>> I'm now creating my CustomMailboxListener with a 1 parameter
>> constructor, which is the MailboxManager, so I can access the
>> mailboxes.
>>
>> Not sure on the questions I asked before yet, though.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 6:05 PM, lclhst<l0c4lh0st.dump@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> Ok, I have been playing around a bit with this.
>>>
>>> I added the listener through the Spring XML files and now I receive
>>> the events in my listener. It's working great.
>>>
>>> When event.getSession().getType().equals(SessionType.System), the
>>> e-mail is being handled/received/modified through SMTP, right?
>>> Otherwise it's user, which is the user doing some actions himself, right?
>>>
>>> So this way I could check if a user is dragging an e-mail inside his
>>> INBOX, or it's a message received by SMTP.
>>>
>>> Because when a user is dragging an e-mail inside his INBOX, I need to
>>> sync this back to our CRM, so I can make the message there, too.
>>>
>>> Also, I was wondering what would be the best way to query the mailbox.
>>> For example, when I receive a message in the listener, could I use the
>>> event.getSession().getAttributes().get("MESSAGEMAPPER") safely? It's
>>> mentioned this class isn't thread safe. But I need to be able to fetch
>>> the full message including headers and everything, so I can sync it to
>>> our CRM.
>>>
>>> Also, I was wondering what would be the best way to do the status
>>> updates from our CRM. Because when I make an IMAP session and mark a
>>> message read, the listener receives it and syncs it back to our CRM.
>>> That way I'm doing double syncing, which isn't what we want of course.
>>>
>>> Could I check for example the host name inside the public void
>>> event(Event event)? I cannot seem to find any methods or properties
>>> that would give me a context containing these details.
>>>
>>> I also saw a createSystemSession()-method on the MailboxManager. I'm
>>> not sure how to access this MailboxManager though. I could register it
>>> to some class using the spring beans (or even my listener class), but
>>> I don't think that would be a good idea. I could set up something
>>> using JMS messaging so a class inside JAMES would be receiving
>>> messages through JMS and then update the mailbox. Though I think there
>>> must be a better way, but I cannot seem to find it yet.
>>>
>>> I hope you guys could give me a bit more insight on how to do this.
>>> Not asking for complete solutions. :) I just don't know where to look
>>> yet. :)
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help so far, much appreciated.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Norman Maurer
>>> <norman.maurer@googlemail.com>  wrote:
>>>> Hi there,
>>>>
>>>> you can register a MailboxListener in the MailboxManager instance and
>>>> so get notifications about mailbox events. This should do the job.
>>>>
>>>> Have a look here:
>>>>
>>>>
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/james/mailbox/trunk/api/src/main/java/org/apache/james/mailbox/MailboxManager.java?view=markup
>>>>
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/james/mailbox/trunk/api/src/main/java/org/apache/james/mailbox/MailboxListenerSupport.java?view=markup
>>>>
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/james/mailbox/trunk/api/src/main/java/org/apache/james/mailbox/MailboxListener.java?view=markup
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if you need more info..
>>>>
>>>> Bye,
>>>> Norman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2012/1/26 l0c4l h0st<l0c4lh0st.dump@gmail.com>:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> What I'm trying to do is capture events that the IMAP-server should
>>>>> (or is supposed to) raise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whenever a message gets marked as read, I want to get a notification
>>>>> of this event.
>>>>> Whenever a message gets marked as unread, I want to get a notification
>>>>> of this event.
>>>>> Whenever a message gets flagged, I want to get a notification of this
>> event.
>>>>> Etc. etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whenever a user moves a message to a different IMAP folder, I want to
>>>>> get a notification of this event.
>>>>> Whenever a user deletes a message to a different IMAP folder, I want
>>>>> to get a notification of this event.
>>>>> Whenever a user copies a message to a different IMAP folder, I want to
>>>>> get a notification of this event.
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now, I don't see any way of doing this. I thought this would be
>>>>> possible with the Matchers and Mailets, but I don't see how this would
>>>>> be possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can define a custom mailet, that matches on ALL, when I add this
>>>>> mailet in the root- and transport-processors, I get notifications only
>>>>> of mail that arrives through SMTP and mail that is sent through SMTP.
>>>>>
>>>>> Am I missing the IMAP way of doing this? Or is there currently no way
>>>>> of doing this with IMAP?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've tried searching through the code, but I don't see any event
>>>>> listeners or anything that would be triggered. I did find
>>>>> ImapStateAwareMailboxListener, but I cannot find how to subscribe to
>>>>> this event or anything.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, I found the UpdatedFlags class, but there is no notification
>>>>> sent anywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> SO:
>>>>> How can I get a notification of every single change that is made to a
>>>>> message in IMAP? IMAP is currently most important for us.
>>>>>
>>>>> The reason I want to do this is we have a custom CRM tool that has a
>>>>> custom mail database and we want to slowly migrate to a real
>>>>> mailserver, we thought of using Apache JAMES to do synchronisation,
>>>>> because at this time we cannot yet realize a full migration. We want
>>>>> to do this in steps.
>>>>>
>>>>> My ultimate goal, regarding synchronisation, is to receive all events
>>>>> that are occurring in the IMAP part of JAMES, so we can update the
>>>>> status of the messages in our CRM-tool. My goal is also to synchronize
>>>>> changes in the CRM-tool back to IMAP-JAMES. But this can easily be
>>>>> done through an IMAP-session. That shouldn't be a problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope anyone can help me out on this, because I find a lack of
>>>>> documentation regarding this subject.
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now, the only way of doing this seems to me creating database
>>>>> triggers (we're using this with PostgreSQL).
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you in advance.
>>>>>
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