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(was: 3rd party jars - current and proposed) From: sebb To: dev@jmeter.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 9 April 2016 at 19:11, Philippe Mouawad wrote: > On Saturday, April 9, 2016, sebb wrote: > >> On 8 April 2016 at 22:40, Vladimir Sitnikov > > wrote: >> > Philippe> The idea was interesting because it makes things rather simple. >> > >> > What if we take a step back and consider some kind of "JMeter Plugin >> Market"? >> >> This is tangential to the subject at hand. > > I find the idea great. > Eclise, jira, jenkins do that > But it is some piece of work, yes. > > I think the client part should be defined by the core project to allow : > - local installation > - installation from remote servers > > This will enable a more independant mechanism. > > > >> >> > For instance: >> > 1) Search & install plugins from within JMeter UI >> >> -1; that would add unnecessary classes to memory. >> >> However it could be stand-alone. > > > Eclipse does it, jconsole also. > The additional classes footprint is imho not a valid counter argument. They don't care so much about memory footprint as they are not benchmark utils. > Standalone tool is again another tool so -1 for me. That is not a valid argument. > I prefer it in core tool. -1. There's no particular reason to have it in the core tool. > > >> >> Though I'm not sure how much work it would save compared with the >> effort of creating and maintaining it. That sounds like a good 3rd >> party project; it seems OT for JMeter. > > > As I wrote before client part should be Core. Why, apart from not wanting a separate tool? > >> >> > 2) If loading a test plan that references not yet installed plugins, >> > JMeter would be able to suggest installing the required ones >> >> JMeter only knows what classes the test plan cannot find. >> Who is going to maintain the database of plugin locations and their >> classes? >> Who is going to vet the plugins? > > > Let's think about a mechanism before stopping everything. Let's not discuss this at all further until after 3.0 otherwise it will delay the release. > >> >> However it might be possible to improve the error messages that are >> produced when test classes cannot be found. >> >> > Vladimir >> > > > -- > Cordialement. > Philippe Mouawad.