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From Felix Schumacher <felix.schumac...@internetallee.de>
Subject Re: Java8 for 3.1 ?
Date Mon, 12 Sep 2016 14:24:30 GMT


Am 12. September 2016 16:19:32 MESZ, schrieb Antonio Gomes Rodrigues <ra0077@gmail.com>:
>Hi,
>
>Do we have an idea in which OSes user rune JMeter?
>
>If you check rebelLabs 2016 report (
>https://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/reports/) we can read
>
>"62% of respondents state that Java 8 is used
>to run their main production applications. 28% of
>respondents are on Java 7 with less than one in ten

So it's still nearly one third of our potential users, that are using java 7. That seems to
be a good argument to support it, don't you think? 

>using Java 6. The 1% sitting in the other category
>consist of Java 5 users and some brave Java 9 power
>users!"
>
>Java 8 win.
>
>TavisCI already check Java8 build. Why do you think that moving to 8
>now
>will take a lot of effort?

It would take no effort, but that was not the point. 

>
>About bugs, have we got un process to review all the bugs and close
>some of
>them (not a bug, not enought information....)?

No formal review process, that I know of. 

Regards, 
Felix 

>
>Thank
>Antonio
>
>
>2016-09-11 14:40 GMT+02:00 sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com>:
>
>> On 10 September 2016 at 20:58, Felix Schumacher
>> <felix.schumacher@internetallee.de> wrote:
>> > Am 10.09.2016 um 21:53 schrieb Vladimir Sitnikov:
>> >>
>> >> Felix>My main concern is, that we exclude all those people, that
>are
>> >> Felix>still using java 7 (for whatever reason).
>> >>
>> >> Are there people who want to use JMeter 3.1 and they cannot use
>Java 8?
>> >> If one is stuck with Java 7, then JMeter 3.0 will work just fine.
>> >
>> > There are a few minor nags in 3.0 which I would really like to get
>> solved in
>> > a 3.1 or 3.0.1.
>> >
>> > After that I am fine with updating to java 8.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Is there anybody who contributes to JMeter and who cannot use Java
>8?
>> >
>> > As contribution is everything from writing patches to telling your
>> friends
>> > how awesome jmeter is, I have to say: I don't know ;)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "we exclude..still using java 7" is not practical as there might
>be
>> always
>> >> be someone
>> >> who "still uses java 7".
>> >
>> > Right and that is why we will update to java 8 after the (hopefully
>near)
>> > next release.
>> >
>> > If everyone else thinks we should update to java 8 right now, I
>might
>> change
>> > my mind, though.
>>
>> It's all about the cost-benfit analysis.
>>
>> JMeter is generally used stand-alone and can be run in its own JVM or
>> host if necessary, so Java upgrades shouldn't involve much work.
>>
>> It's still important to ensure that the Java version is widely
>> available (and stable) on different OSes so that upgrading is
>possible
>> for as many end-users as possible.
>> So Java 9 is out of scope at present.
>>
>> Also there will still be costs if users have to upgrade, so there
>must
>> be sufficient end-user benefits to justify the costs.
>>
>> In principle, I am not against requiring Java 8 now, except that
>there
>> are some bugs that really deserve to be fixed first.
>>
>> I think moving to 8 now will take effort which is better spent on
>> fixing the bugs and regressions that have been reported.
>>
>> > Felix
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Vladimir
>> >>
>> >
>>


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