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From Philippe Mouawad <philippe.moua...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Workbench : Let's drop it ?
Date Wed, 08 Nov 2017 16:47:53 GMT
As you say, it’s oddity.
A tool should be intuitive, this part is not, we cannot always say, rtfm.
You know that lot of people don’t read docs.

Let’s try and see if it is that complex.

We shouldn’t say , we cannot touch, JMeter is not legacy, so we touch ,
break then fix .

Regards

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 8 November 2017 at 16:18, Philippe Mouawad
> <p.mouawad@ubik-ingenierie.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I’d say Test Plan.
> > I suggest testcompiler ignores them
>
> That would involve a lot of testing to ensure nothing broke.
>
> Are you sure it's worth it?
>
> There have been other instances where what seems to be a minor change
> turns out to be far more intrusive than first expected.
> Dropping Workbench seems like such a case to me; it's been part of
> JMeter for so long that there are bound to be lots of places that
> assume it is present.
>
> I agree that the Workbench is a bit of an oddity, but I think removing
> it is going to prove much more of a headache than improving the
> documentation to explain it better.
> And potentially find more uses for it.
>
> > Regards
> >
> > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017, Artem Fedorov <
> artem.fedorov@blazemeter.com <javascript:;>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> If we dropped WorkBench, in which element we can add Non-Test Elements
> >> (HTTP Mirror Server, HTTP(S) Test Script Recorder, Property Display)?
> >> Can we add these Non-Test Elements to Test Plan (root) or Test Fragment?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
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> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Philippe Mouawad <
> >> philippe.mouawad@gmail.com <javascript:;> <javascript:;>
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> > Great !
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Andrey Pokhilko <apc4@ya.ru
> <javascript:;>
> >> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > FYI BlazeMeter will attempt to implement this change and contribute
> it.
> >> > >
> >> > > Andrey Pokhilko
> >> > >
> >> > > 04.11.2017 17:06, Andrey Pokhilko пишет:
> >> > > > I'll need to think about it.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Andrey Pokhilko
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 04.11.2017 17:01, Philippe Mouawad пишет:
> >> > > >> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Andrey Pokhilko <apc4@ya.ru
> <javascript:;>
> >> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>> +1 from me, I think it is possible to automatically move
> elements
> >> > from
> >> > > >>> loaded test plans.
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >> Do you have some time to contribute a patch for this if you
think
> >> it's
> >> > > >> needed ?
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>> Andrey Pokhilko
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> 04.11.2017 15:18, Maxime Chassagneux пишет:
> >> > > >>>> Hi,
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> I never use it, except for recording script, so +1
for me.
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> Regards
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> 2017-11-04 13:07 GMT+01:00 Philippe Mouawad <
> >> > > philippe.mouawad@gmail.com <javascript:;> <javascript:;>
> >> > > >>>> :
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>>> Hello,
> >> > > >>>>> Workbench element is confusing for beginners
who don't
> understand
> >> > > >>>>> clearly its use.
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>> Thinking more about it, I don't see today why
we should still
> >> keep
> >> > > it.
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>> The only advantage of this element is Non Test
Elements which
> >> would
> >> > > >>>>> be made available from Test Plan directly.
> >> > > >>>>> When running a test those element would not impact
test plan.
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>> The only issue is backward compatibility, should
we try to
> move
> >> > > >>> elements in
> >> > > >>>>> workbench under test plan or just mention a backward
> >> > incompatibility.
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>> Users would manually move there elements to Test
Plan.
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>> Regards
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Cordialement.
> >> > Philippe Mouawad.
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cordialement.
> > Philippe Mouawad.
> > Ubik-Ingénierie
> >
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-- 
Cordialement.
Philippe Mouawad.

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