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From Andrey Pokhilko <a...@ya.ru>
Subject Re: About Mailing list guidelines
Date Thu, 12 Apr 2018 06:23:29 GMT
+1 to ease process of getting users into mailing list.

Andrey Pokhilko

11.04.2018 23:19, Philippe Mouawad пишет:
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:15 PM, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 11 April 2018 at 20:41, Philippe Mouawad
>> <p.mouawad@ubik-ingenierie.com> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> Today when users want to ask a question about JMeter there are many ways:
>>>
>>>
>>>    - Our way:
>>>       - User mailing list
>>>       - Other ways:
>>>       - https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/jmeter
>>>       - There is a slack for jmeter
>>>
>>> So if we look at our mailing list:
>>>
>>>    - http://jmeter.apache.org/mail.html
>>>    - http://jmeter.apache.org/mail2.html
>>>
>>> The left link on website goes to mail.html and there is some long text to
>>> read:
>>>
>>>    - Do users read it ?
>>>    - If we look at its content, it is very defensive:
>> I did not write the original, but I think it is sensible, rather than
>> defensive.
>>
> I wrote part of it, and I think now reading it again that it can be seen as
> distrustful to users.
>
>>>       - *Respect the mailing list type *
>>>       - *Join the lists that are appropriate for your discussion.*
>>>       -
>>> *Ask smart questions. *
>>>       - *Keep your email short and to the point; use a suitable subject
>>>       line. *
>>>       - *Do your best to ensure that you are not sending HTML or
>> "Stylized"
>>>       email to the list.*
>>>       - *Please don't send attachments or include large chunks of code*
>>>       - *Do not cross post messages. *
>>>       -
>>> *Watch where you are sending email. *
>>>    - *Isn't it kind of scary for the newbie who wants to ask some
>> question
>>>    ?*
>> Once an email has been sent, in general it cannot be removed or redacted.
>>
> Yes but this can happen today no ?
>
>>> Shouldn't we just remove mail.html and  directly link to mail2.html and
>>> mention guidelines in it ?
>> The point was to try and get people to read the guidelines.
>>
> I think people who don't want to read them won't wherever we put them and
> will directly find the link or ask somewhere else which is what is
> happening looking at number of question on SO vs questions on User mailing
> list
> People who want to read them will do even if we change the order.
> So another  approach would be:
>
>    - let's trust users and encourage this way of asking
>
>
>
>>> --
>>> Regards.
>>> Philippe
>
>


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