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From Andrew Otto <o...@wikimedia.org>
Subject Re: Kafka/Hadoop consumers and producers
Date Tue, 13 Aug 2013 14:46:18 GMT
Andrew,

I'm about to dive into figuring out how to use Camus without Avro.  Perhaps we should join
forces?  (Be warned thought! My java fu is low at the moment. :) ).

-Ao


On Aug 12, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Andrew Psaltis <Andrew.Psaltis@Webtrends.com> wrote:

> Kam,
> I am perfectly fine if you pick this up. After thinking about it for a
> while, we are going to upgrade to Kafka 0.8.0 and also use Camus as it
> more closely matches our use case, with the caveat of we do not use Avro.
> With that said, I will try and work on the back-port of custom data writer
> patch[1], however, I am not sure how quickly I will get this done as we
> are going to work towards upgrading our Kafka cluster.
> 
> Thanks,
> Andrew
> 
> [1] 
> https://github.com/linkedin/camus/commit/87917a2aea46da9d21c8f67129f6463af5
> 2f7aa8
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/12/13 6:16 PM, "Kam Kasravi" <kamkasravi@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> I would like to do this refactoring since I did a high level consumer a
>> while ago. 
>> A few weeks ago I had opened KAFKA-949 Kafka on Yarn which I was also
>> hoping to add to contribute.
>> It's almost done. KAFKA-949 is paired with BIGTOP-989 which adds kafka
>> 0.8 to the bigtop distribution.
>> KAFKA-949 basically allows kafka brokers to be started up using sysvinit
>> services and would ease some of the
>> startup/configuration issues that newbies have when getting started with
>> kafka. Ideally I would like to
>> fold a number of kafka/bin/* commands into the kafka service. Andrew
>> please let me know if would like to
>> pick this up instead. Thanks!
>> 
>> Kam
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Jay Kreps <jay.kreps@gmail.com>
>> To: Ken Goodhope <kengoodhope@gmail.com>
>> Cc: Andrew Psaltis <psaltis.andrew@gmail.com>;
>> dibyendu.bhattacharya@pearson.com; "camus_etl@googlegroups.com"
>> <camus_etl@googlegroups.com>; "aotto@wikimedia.org"
>> <aotto@wikimedia.org>; Felix GV <felix@mate1inc.com>; Cosmin Lehene
>> <clehene@adobe.com>; "dev@kafka.apache.org" <dev@kafka.apache.org>;
>> "users@kafka.apache.org" <users@kafka.apache.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 3:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: Kafka/Hadoop consumers and producers
>> 
>> 
>> So guys, just to throw my 2 cents in:
>> 
>> 1. We aren't deprecating anything. I just noticed that the Hadoop contrib
>> package wasn't getting as much attention as it should.
>> 
>> 2. Andrew or anyone--if there is anyone using the contrib package who
>> would
>> be willing to volunteer to kind of adopt it that would be great. I am
>> happy
>> to help in whatever way I can. The practical issue is that most of the
>> committers are either using Camus or not using Hadoop at all so we just
>> haven't been doing a good job of documenting, bug fixing, and supporting
>> the contrib packages.
>> 
>> 3. Ken, if you could document how to use Camus that would likely make it a
>> lot more useful to people. I think most people would want a full-fledged
>> ETL solution and would likely prefer Camus, but very few people are using
>> Avro.
>> 
>> -Jay
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Ken Goodhope <kengoodhope@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I just checked and that patch is in .8 branch.   Thanks for working on
>>> back porting it Andrew.  We'd be happy to commit that work to master.
>>> 
>>> As for the kafka contrib project vs Camus, they are similar but not
>>> quite
>>> identical.  Camus is intended to be a high throughput ETL for bulk
>>> ingestion of Kafka data into HDFS.  Where as what we have in contrib is
>>> more of a simple KafkaInputFormat.  Neither can really replace the
>>> other.
>>> If you had a complex hadoop workflow and wanted to introduce some Kafka
>>> data into that workflow, using Camus would be a gigantic overkill and a
>>> pain to setup.  On the flipside, if what you want is frequent reliable
>>> ingest of Kafka data into HDFS, a simple InputFormat doesn't provide you
>>> with that.
>>> 
>>> I think it would be preferable to simplify the existing contrib
>>> Input/OutputFormats by refactoring them to use the more stable higher
>>> level
>>> Kafka APIs.  Currently they use the lower level APIs.  This should make
>>> them easier to maintain, and user friendly enough to avoid the need for
>>> extensive documentation.
>>> 
>>> Ken
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Andrew Psaltis
>>> <psaltis.andrew@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Dibyendu,
>>>> According to the pull request:
>>>> https://github.com/linkedin/camus/pull/15it was merged into the
>>>> camus-kafka-0.8
>>>> branch. I have not checked if the code was subsequently removed,
>>>> however,
>>>> two at least one the important files from this patch
>>>> (camus-api/src/main/java/com/linkedin/camus/etl/RecordWriterProvider.jav
>>>> a)
>>>> is still present.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Andrew
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 9:39 AM,
>>>> <dibyendu.bhattacharya@pearson.com>wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Ken,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am also working on making the Camus fit for Non Avro message for our
>>>>> requirement.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I see you mentioned about this patch (
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://github.com/linkedin/camus/commit/87917a2aea46da9d21c8f67129f646
>>>>> 3af52f7aa8)
>>>>> which supports custom data writer for Camus. But this patch is not
>>>>> pulled
>>>>> into camus-kafka-0.8 branch. Is there any plan for doing the same ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dibyendu
>>>>> 
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