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From Todd Palino <tpal...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: How to manage the consumer group id?
Date Thu, 11 Jun 2015 16:38:04 GMT
When we need to delete a group, we do it in Zookeeper directly. When we
need to roll back offsets, we use the Import/Export tool classes to do it,
because it's a little more efficient than working in Zookeeper. You can
find the details on the tools at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/System+Tools

I believe that as of right now (and please someone correct me if I'm
wrong), the Import/Export tools are not available yet for Kafka-committed
offsets. There is a patch for this, and we have a version of it built
internally. I think it's waiting for some of the KIP work before it is
finalized.

-Todd


On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 4:48 PM, James Cheng <jcheng@tivo.com> wrote:

>
> > On Jun 10, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Todd Palino <tpalino@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > For us, group ID is a configuration parameter of the application. So we
> > store it in configuration files (generally on disk) and maintain it there
> > through our configuration and deployment infrastructure. As you pointed
> > out, hard coding the group ID into the application is not usually a good
> > pattern.
> >
> > If you want to reset, you have a couple choices. One is that you can just
> > switch group names and start fresh. Another is that you can shut down the
> > consumer and delete the existing consumer group, then restart. You could
> > also stop, edit the offsets to set them to something specific (if you
> need
> > to roll back to a specific point, for example), and restart.
> >
>
> Thanks Todd. That helps. The "on disk" storage doesn't work well if you
> are running consumers in ephemeral nodes like EC2 machines, but in that
> case, I guess you would save the group ID in some other data store ("on
> disk, but elsewhere") associated with your "application cluster" rather
> than any one node of the cluster.
>
> I often hear about people saving their offsets using the consumer, and
> monitoring offsets for lag. I don't hear much about people deleting or
> changing/setting offsets by other means. How is it usually done? Are there
> tools to change the offsets, or do people go into zookeeper to change them
> directly? Or, for broker-stored offsets, use the Kafka APIs?
>
> -James
>
> > -Todd
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 1:20 PM, James Cheng <jcheng@tivo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> How are people specifying/persisting/resetting the consumer group
> >> identifier ("group.id") when using the high-level consumer?
> >>
> >> I understand how it works. I specify some string and all consumers that
> >> use that same string will help consume a topic. The partitions will be
> >> distributed amongst them for consumption. And when they save their
> offsets,
> >> the offsets will be saved according to the consumer group. That all
> makes
> >> sense to me.
> >>
> >> What I don't understand is the best way to set and persist them, and
> reset
> >> them if needed. For example, do I simply hardcode the string in my
> code? If
> >> so, then all deployed instances will have the same value (that's good).
> If
> >> I want to bring up a test instance of that code, or a new installation,
> >> though, then it will also share the load (that's bad).
> >>
> >> If I pass in a value to my instances, that lets me have different test
> and
> >> production instances of the same code (that's good), but then I have to
> >> persist my consumer group id somewhere outside of the process (on disk,
> in
> >> zookeeper, etc). Which then means I need some way to manage *that*
> >> identifier (that's... just how it is?).
> >>
> >> What if I decide that I want my app to start over? In the case of
> >> log-compacted streams, I want to throw away any processing I did and
> start
> >> "from the beginning". Do I change my consumer group, which effective
> resets
> >> everything? Or do I delete my saved offsets, and then resume with the
> same
> >> consumer group? The latter is functionally equivalent to the former.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> -James
> >>
> >>
>
>

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