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From Ara Ebrahimi <ara.ebrah...@argyledata.com>
Subject Re: more uniform task assignment across kafka stream nodes
Date Mon, 27 Mar 2017 21:55:35 GMT
Holy s...!

This lead to ~4-5x better performance. I’m gonna try this with more nodes and if performance
improves almost linearly then we are good for now.

Thanks!
Ara.

> On Mar 27, 2017, at 2:10 PM, Damian Guy <damian.guy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Ara,
>
> There is a performance issue in the 0.10.2 release of session windows. It
> is fixed with this PR: https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/2645
> You can work around this on 0.10.2 by calling the aggregate(..), reduce(..)
> etc methods and supplying StateStoreSupplier<SessionStore> with caching
> disabled, i.e, by doing something like:
>
> final StateStoreSupplier<SessionStore> sessionStore =
> Stores.create(*"session-store-name"*)
>    .withKeys(Serdes.String())
>    .withValues(Serdes.String())
>    .persistent()
>    .sessionWindowed(TimeUnit.MINUTES.toMillis(7))
>    .build();
>
>
> The fix has also been cherry-picked to the 0.10.2 branch, so you could
> build from source and not have to create the StateStoreSupplier.
>
> Thanks,
> Damian
>
> On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 at 21:56 Ara Ebrahimi <ara.ebrahimi@argyledata.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the response Mathias!
>
> The reason we want this exact task assignment to happen is that a critical
> part of our pipeline involves grouping relevant records together (that’s
> what the aggregate function in the topology is for). And for hot keys this
> can lead to sometimes 100s of records to get grouped together. Even worse,
> these records are session bound, we use session windows. Hence we see lots
> of activity around the store backing the aggregate function and even though
> we use SSD drives we’re not seeing the kind of performance we want to see.
> It seems like the aggregate function leads to lots of updates to these hot
> keys which lead to lots of rocksdb activity.
>
> Now there are many ways to fix this problem:
> - just don’t aggregate, create an algorithm which is not reliant on
> grouping/aggregating records. Not what we can do with our tight schedule
> right now.
> - do grouping/aggregating but employ n instances and rely on uniform
> distribution of these tasks. This is the easiest solution and what we
> expected to work but didn’t work as you can tell from this thread. We threw
> 4 instances at it but only 2 got used.
> - tune rocksdb? I tried this actually but it didn’t really help us much,
> aside from the fact that tuning rocksdb is very tricky.
> - use in-memory store instead? Unfortunately we have to use session windows
> for this aggregate function and apparently there’s no in-memory session
> store impl? I tried to create one but soon realized it’s too much work :) I
> looked at default PartitionAssigner code too, but that ain’t trivial either.
>
> So I’m a bit hopeless :(
>
> Ara.
>
> On Mar 27, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Matthias J. Sax <matthias@confluent.io<mailto:
> matthias@confluent.io>> wrote:
>
>
>
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> From: "Matthias J. Sax" <matthias@confluent.io<mailto:matthias@confluent.io
>>>
> Subject: Re: more uniform task assignment across kafka stream nodes
> Date: March 27, 2017 at 1:35:30 PM PDT
> To: users@kafka.apache.org<mailto:users@kafka.apache.org>
> Reply-To: <users@kafka.apache.org<mailto:users@kafka.apache.org>>
>
>
> Ara,
>
> thanks for the detailed information.
>
> If I parse this correctly, both instances run the same number of tasks
> (12 each). That is all Streams promises.
>
> To come back to your initial question:
>
> Is there a way to tell kafka streams to uniformly assign partitions across
> instances? If I have n kafka streams instances running, I want each to
> handle EXACTLY 1/nth number of partitions. No dynamic task assignment
> logic. Just dumb 1/n assignment.
>
> That is exactly what you get: each of you two instances get 24/2 = 12
> tasks assigned. That is dump 1/n assignment, isn't it? So my original
> response was correct.
>
> However, I now understand better what you are actually meaning by your
> question. Note that Streams does not distinguish "type" of tasks -- it
> only sees 24 tasks and assigns those in a balanced way.
>
> Thus, currently there is no easy way to get the assignment you want to
> have, except, you implement you own `PartitionAssignor`.
>
> This is the current implementation for 0.10.2
> https://github.com/apache/kafka/blob/0.10.2/streams/src/main/java/org/apache/kafka/streams/processor/internals/StreamPartitionAssignor.java
>
> You can, if you wish write your own assignor and set it via
> StreamsConfig. However, be aware that this might be tricky to get right
> and also might have runtime implications with regard to rebalancing and
> state store recovery. We recently improve the current implementation to
> avoid costly task movements:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-4677
>
> Thus, I would not recommend to implement an own `PartitionAssignor`.
>
>
> However, the root question is, why do you need this exact assignment you
> are looking for in the first place? Why is it "bad" if "types" of tasks
> are not distinguished? I would like to understand your requirement
> better -- it might be worth to improve Streams here.
>
>
> -Matthias
>
>
> On 3/27/17 12:57 PM, Ara Ebrahimi wrote:
> Hi,
>
> So, I simplified the topology by making sure we have only 1 source topic.
> Now I have 1 source topic, 8 partitions, 2 instances. And here’s how the
> topology looks like:
>
> instance 1:
>
> KafkaStreams processID: 48b58bc0-f600-4ec8-bc92-8cb3ea081aac
> StreamsThread appId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread clientId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread threadId: StreamThread-1
> Active tasks:
> StreamsTask taskId: 0_3
> ProcessorTopology:
> KSTREAM-SOURCE-0000000000:
> topics: [activities-avro-or]
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000001]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000001:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000002]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000002:
> children: [KSTREAM-BRANCH-0000000003]
> KSTREAM-BRANCH-0000000003:
> children: [KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000004, KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000005]
> KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000004:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAPVALUES-0000000006]
> KSTREAM-MAPVALUES-0000000006:
> children: [KSTREAM-FLATMAPVALUES-0000000007]
> KSTREAM-FLATMAPVALUES-0000000007:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000008]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000008:
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000011]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000011:
> children: [KSTREAM-SINK-0000000010]
> KSTREAM-SINK-0000000010:
> topic: activities-by-phone-store-or-repartition
> KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000005:
> Partitions [activities-avro-or-3]
> Standby tasks:
>
> StreamsThread appId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread clientId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread threadId: StreamThread-2
> Active tasks:
> StreamsTask taskId: 1_2
> ProcessorTopology:
> KSTREAM-SOURCE-0000000012:
> topics: [activities-by-phone-store-or-repartition]
> children: [KSTREAM-AGGREGATE-0000000009]
> KSTREAM-AGGREGATE-0000000009:
> states: [activities-by-phone-store-or]
> children: [KTABLE-TOSTREAM-0000000013]
> KTABLE-TOSTREAM-0000000013:
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000014]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000014:
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000015]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000015:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000016]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000016:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000017]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000017:
> children: [KSTREAM-SINK-0000000018]
> KSTREAM-SINK-0000000018:
> topic: ml-features-avro-or
> Partitions [activities-by-phone-store-or-repartition-2]
> Standby tasks:
>
> StreamsThread appId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread clientId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread threadId: StreamThread-3
> Active tasks:
> StreamsTask taskId: 1_1
> ProcessorTopology:
> KSTREAM-SOURCE-0000000012:
> topics: [activities-by-phone-store-or-repartition]
> children: [KSTREAM-AGGREGATE-0000000009]
> KSTREAM-AGGREGATE-0000000009:
> states: [activities-by-phone-store-or]
> children: [KTABLE-TOSTREAM-0000000013]
> KTABLE-TOSTREAM-0000000013:
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000014]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000014:
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000015]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000015:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000016]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000016:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000017]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000017:
> children: [KSTREAM-SINK-0000000018]
> KSTREAM-SINK-0000000018:
> topic: ml-features-avro-or
> Partitions [activities-by-phone-store-or-repartition-1]
> StreamsTask taskId: 2_7
> ProcessorTopology:
> KSTREAM-SOURCE-0000000019:
> topics: [ml-features-avro-or]
> Partitions [ml-features-avro-or-7]
> Standby tasks:
>
> StreamsThread appId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread clientId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread threadId: StreamThread-4
> Active tasks:
> StreamsTask taskId: 2_0
> ProcessorTopology:
> KSTREAM-SOURCE-0000000019:
> topics: [ml-features-avro-or]
> Partitions [ml-features-avro-or-0]
> StreamsTask taskId: 2_6
> ProcessorTopology:
> KSTREAM-SOURCE-0000000019:
> topics: [ml-features-avro-or]
> Partitions [ml-features-avro-or-6]
> Standby tasks:
>
> StreamsThread appId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread clientId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread threadId: StreamThread-5
> Active tasks:
> StreamsTask taskId: 0_0
> ProcessorTopology:
> KSTREAM-SOURCE-0000000000:
> topics: [activities-avro-or]
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000001]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000001:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000002]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000002:
> children: [KSTREAM-BRANCH-0000000003]
> KSTREAM-BRANCH-0000000003:
> children: [KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000004, KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000005]
> KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000004:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAPVALUES-0000000006]
> KSTREAM-MAPVALUES-0000000006:
> children: [KSTREAM-FLATMAPVALUES-0000000007]
> KSTREAM-FLATMAPVALUES-0000000007:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000008]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000008:
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000011]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000011:
> children: [KSTREAM-SINK-0000000010]
> KSTREAM-SINK-0000000010:
> topic: activities-by-phone-store-or-repartition
> KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000005:
> Partitions [activities-avro-or-0]
> StreamsTask taskId: 1_6
> ProcessorTopology:
> KSTREAM-SOURCE-0000000012:
> topics: [activities-by-phone-store-or-repartition]
> children: [KSTREAM-AGGREGATE-0000000009]
> KSTREAM-AGGREGATE-0000000009:
> states: [activities-by-phone-store-or]
> children: [KTABLE-TOSTREAM-0000000013]
> KTABLE-TOSTREAM-0000000013:
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000014]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000014:
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000015]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000015:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000016]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000016:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000017]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000017:
> children: [KSTREAM-SINK-0000000018]
> KSTREAM-SINK-0000000018:
> topic: ml-features-avro-or
> Partitions [activities-by-phone-store-or-repartition-6]
> Standby tasks:
>
> StreamsThread appId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread clientId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread threadId: StreamThread-6
> Active tasks:
> StreamsTask taskId: 1_0
> ProcessorTopology:
> KSTREAM-SOURCE-0000000012:
> topics: [activities-by-phone-store-or-repartition]
> children: [KSTREAM-AGGREGATE-0000000009]
> KSTREAM-AGGREGATE-0000000009:
> states: [activities-by-phone-store-or]
> children: [KTABLE-TOSTREAM-0000000013]
> KTABLE-TOSTREAM-0000000013:
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000014]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000014:
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000015]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000015:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000016]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000016:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000017]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000017:
> children: [KSTREAM-SINK-0000000018]
> KSTREAM-SINK-0000000018:
> topic: ml-features-avro-or
> Partitions [activities-by-phone-store-or-repartition-0]
> StreamsTask taskId: 0_7
> ProcessorTopology:
> KSTREAM-SOURCE-0000000000:
> topics: [activities-avro-or]
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000001]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000001:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000002]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000002:
> children: [KSTREAM-BRANCH-0000000003]
> KSTREAM-BRANCH-0000000003:
> children: [KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000004, KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000005]
> KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000004:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAPVALUES-0000000006]
> KSTREAM-MAPVALUES-0000000006:
> children: [KSTREAM-FLATMAPVALUES-0000000007]
> KSTREAM-FLATMAPVALUES-0000000007:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000008]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000008:
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000011]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000011:
> children: [KSTREAM-SINK-0000000010]
> KSTREAM-SINK-0000000010:
> topic: activities-by-phone-store-or-repartition
> KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000005:
> Partitions [activities-avro-or-7]
> Standby tasks:
>
> StreamsThread appId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread clientId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread threadId: StreamThread-7
> Active tasks:
> StreamsTask taskId: 2_4
> ProcessorTopology:
> KSTREAM-SOURCE-0000000019:
> topics: [ml-features-avro-or]
> Partitions [ml-features-avro-or-4]
> Standby tasks:
>
> StreamsThread appId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread clientId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread threadId: StreamThread-8
> Active tasks:
> StreamsTask taskId: 1_3
> ProcessorTopology:
> KSTREAM-SOURCE-0000000012:
> topics: [activities-by-phone-store-or-repartition]
> children: [KSTREAM-AGGREGATE-0000000009]
> KSTREAM-AGGREGATE-0000000009:
> states: [activities-by-phone-store-or]
> children: [KTABLE-TOSTREAM-0000000013]
> KTABLE-TOSTREAM-0000000013:
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000014]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000014:
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000015]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000015:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000016]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000016:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000017]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000017:
> children: [KSTREAM-SINK-0000000018]
> KSTREAM-SINK-0000000018:
> topic: ml-features-avro-or
> Partitions [activities-by-phone-store-or-repartition-3]
> Standby tasks:
>
>
> instance 2:
>
> KafkaStreams processID: 092072f8-87be-4989-a94f-0ed544f5ca44
> StreamsThread appId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread clientId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread threadId: StreamThread-1
> Active tasks:
> StreamsTask taskId: 2_1
> ProcessorTopology:
> KSTREAM-SOURCE-0000000019:
> topics: [ml-features-avro-or]
> Partitions [ml-features-avro-or-1]
> StreamsTask taskId: 2_5
> ProcessorTopology:
> KSTREAM-SOURCE-0000000019:
> topics: [ml-features-avro-or]
> Partitions [ml-features-avro-or-5]
> Standby tasks:
>
> StreamsThread appId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread clientId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread threadId: StreamThread-2
> Active tasks:
> StreamsTask taskId: 0_4
> ProcessorTopology:
> KSTREAM-SOURCE-0000000000:
> topics: [activities-avro-or]
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000001]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000001:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000002]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000002:
> children: [KSTREAM-BRANCH-0000000003]
> KSTREAM-BRANCH-0000000003:
> children: [KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000004, KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000005]
> KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000004:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAPVALUES-0000000006]
> KSTREAM-MAPVALUES-0000000006:
> children: [KSTREAM-FLATMAPVALUES-0000000007]
> KSTREAM-FLATMAPVALUES-0000000007:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000008]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000008:
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000011]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000011:
> children: [KSTREAM-SINK-0000000010]
> KSTREAM-SINK-0000000010:
> topic: activities-by-phone-store-or-repartition
> KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000005:
> Partitions [activities-avro-or-4]
> Standby tasks:
>
> StreamsThread appId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread clientId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread threadId: StreamThread-3
> Active tasks:
> StreamsTask taskId: 2_2
> ProcessorTopology:
> KSTREAM-SOURCE-0000000019:
> topics: [ml-features-avro-or]
> Partitions [ml-features-avro-or-2]
> StreamsTask taskId: 1_7
> ProcessorTopology:
> KSTREAM-SOURCE-0000000012:
> topics: [activities-by-phone-store-or-repartition]
> children: [KSTREAM-AGGREGATE-0000000009]
> KSTREAM-AGGREGATE-0000000009:
> states: [activities-by-phone-store-or]
> children: [KTABLE-TOSTREAM-0000000013]
> KTABLE-TOSTREAM-0000000013:
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000014]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000014:
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000015]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000015:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000016]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000016:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000017]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000017:
> children: [KSTREAM-SINK-0000000018]
> KSTREAM-SINK-0000000018:
> topic: ml-features-avro-or
> Partitions [activities-by-phone-store-or-repartition-7]
> Standby tasks:
>
> StreamsThread appId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread clientId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread threadId: StreamThread-4
> Active tasks:
> StreamsTask taskId: 2_3
> ProcessorTopology:
> KSTREAM-SOURCE-0000000019:
> topics: [ml-features-avro-or]
> Partitions [ml-features-avro-or-3]
> Standby tasks:
>
> StreamsThread appId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread clientId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread threadId: StreamThread-5
> Active tasks:
> StreamsTask taskId: 0_1
> ProcessorTopology:
> KSTREAM-SOURCE-0000000000:
> topics: [activities-avro-or]
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000001]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000001:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000002]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000002:
> children: [KSTREAM-BRANCH-0000000003]
> KSTREAM-BRANCH-0000000003:
> children: [KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000004, KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000005]
> KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000004:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAPVALUES-0000000006]
> KSTREAM-MAPVALUES-0000000006:
> children: [KSTREAM-FLATMAPVALUES-0000000007]
> KSTREAM-FLATMAPVALUES-0000000007:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000008]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000008:
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000011]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000011:
> children: [KSTREAM-SINK-0000000010]
> KSTREAM-SINK-0000000010:
> topic: activities-by-phone-store-or-repartition
> KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000005:
> Partitions [activities-avro-or-1]
> StreamsTask taskId: 1_5
> ProcessorTopology:
> KSTREAM-SOURCE-0000000012:
> topics: [activities-by-phone-store-or-repartition]
> children: [KSTREAM-AGGREGATE-0000000009]
> KSTREAM-AGGREGATE-0000000009:
> states: [activities-by-phone-store-or]
> children: [KTABLE-TOSTREAM-0000000013]
> KTABLE-TOSTREAM-0000000013:
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000014]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000014:
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000015]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000015:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000016]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000016:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000017]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000017:
> children: [KSTREAM-SINK-0000000018]
> KSTREAM-SINK-0000000018:
> topic: ml-features-avro-or
> Partitions [activities-by-phone-store-or-repartition-5]
> Standby tasks:
>
> StreamsThread appId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread clientId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread threadId: StreamThread-6
> Active tasks:
> StreamsTask taskId: 1_4
> ProcessorTopology:
> KSTREAM-SOURCE-0000000012:
> topics: [activities-by-phone-store-or-repartition]
> children: [KSTREAM-AGGREGATE-0000000009]
> KSTREAM-AGGREGATE-0000000009:
> states: [activities-by-phone-store-or]
> children: [KTABLE-TOSTREAM-0000000013]
> KTABLE-TOSTREAM-0000000013:
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000014]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000014:
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000015]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000015:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000016]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000016:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000017]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000017:
> children: [KSTREAM-SINK-0000000018]
> KSTREAM-SINK-0000000018:
> topic: ml-features-avro-or
> Partitions [activities-by-phone-store-or-repartition-4]
> Standby tasks:
>
> StreamsThread appId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread clientId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread threadId: StreamThread-7
> Active tasks:
> StreamsTask taskId: 0_2
> ProcessorTopology:
> KSTREAM-SOURCE-0000000000:
> topics: [activities-avro-or]
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000001]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000001:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000002]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000002:
> children: [KSTREAM-BRANCH-0000000003]
> KSTREAM-BRANCH-0000000003:
> children: [KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000004, KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000005]
> KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000004:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAPVALUES-0000000006]
> KSTREAM-MAPVALUES-0000000006:
> children: [KSTREAM-FLATMAPVALUES-0000000007]
> KSTREAM-FLATMAPVALUES-0000000007:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000008]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000008:
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000011]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000011:
> children: [KSTREAM-SINK-0000000010]
> KSTREAM-SINK-0000000010:
> topic: activities-by-phone-store-or-repartition
> KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000005:
> Partitions [activities-avro-or-2]
> StreamsTask taskId: 0_6
> ProcessorTopology:
> KSTREAM-SOURCE-0000000000:
> topics: [activities-avro-or]
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000001]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000001:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000002]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000002:
> children: [KSTREAM-BRANCH-0000000003]
> KSTREAM-BRANCH-0000000003:
> children: [KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000004, KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000005]
> KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000004:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAPVALUES-0000000006]
> KSTREAM-MAPVALUES-0000000006:
> children: [KSTREAM-FLATMAPVALUES-0000000007]
> KSTREAM-FLATMAPVALUES-0000000007:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000008]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000008:
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000011]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000011:
> children: [KSTREAM-SINK-0000000010]
> KSTREAM-SINK-0000000010:
> topic: activities-by-phone-store-or-repartition
> KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000005:
> Partitions [activities-avro-or-6]
> Standby tasks:
>
> StreamsThread appId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread clientId: mar-23-modular
> StreamsThread threadId: StreamThread-8
> Active tasks:
> StreamsTask taskId: 0_5
> ProcessorTopology:
> KSTREAM-SOURCE-0000000000:
> topics: [activities-avro-or]
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000001]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000001:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000002]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000002:
> children: [KSTREAM-BRANCH-0000000003]
> KSTREAM-BRANCH-0000000003:
> children: [KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000004, KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000005]
> KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000004:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAPVALUES-0000000006]
> KSTREAM-MAPVALUES-0000000006:
> children: [KSTREAM-FLATMAPVALUES-0000000007]
> KSTREAM-FLATMAPVALUES-0000000007:
> children: [KSTREAM-MAP-0000000008]
> KSTREAM-MAP-0000000008:
> children: [KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000011]
> KSTREAM-FILTER-0000000011:
> children: [KSTREAM-SINK-0000000010]
> KSTREAM-SINK-0000000010:
> topic: activities-by-phone-store-or-repartition
> KSTREAM-BRANCHCHILD-0000000005:
> Partitions [activities-avro-or-5]
> Standby tasks:
>
>
> activities-avro-or is input topic. ml-features-avro-or is output topic. In
> the middle we have an aggregate (activities-by-phone-store-or-repartition).
>
> On instance 1 I see 3 tasks for activities-avro-or and on instance 2 I see
> 5. Bad.
>
> On instance 1 see 4 tasks for ml-features-avro-or. And 4 on instance 2.
> Good.
>
> On instance 1 see 5 tasks for activities-by-phone-store-or-repartition. And
> 3 on instance 2. Bad.
>
> As I said in terms of offsets for all these partitions I see uniform
> distribution, so we’re not dealing with a bad key scenario.
>
> Ara.
>
> On Mar 25, 2017, at 6:43 PM, Matthias J. Sax <matthias@confluent.io<mailto:
> matthias@confluent.io>> wrote:
>
>
>
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> From: "Matthias J. Sax" <matthias@confluent.io<mailto:matthias@confluent.io
>>>
> Subject: Re: more uniform task assignment across kafka stream nodes
> Date: March 25, 2017 at 6:43:12 PM PDT
> To: users@kafka.apache.org<mailto:users@kafka.apache.org>
> Reply-To: <users@kafka.apache.org<mailto:users@kafka.apache.org>>
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>
> Please share the rest of your topology code (without any UDFs / business
> logic). Otherwise, I cannot give further advice.
>
> -Matthias
>
>
> On 3/25/17 6:08 PM, Ara Ebrahimi wrote:
> Via:
>
> builder.stream("topic1");
> builder.stream("topic2");
> builder.stream("topic3”);
>
> These are different kinds of topics consuming different avro objects.
>
> Ara.
>
> On Mar 25, 2017, at 6:04 PM, Matthias J. Sax <matthias@confluent.io<mailto:
> matthias@confluent.io><mailto:matthias@confluent.io>> wrote:
>
>
>
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> From: "Matthias J. Sax" <matthias@confluent.io<mailto:matthias@confluent.io
>> <mailto:matthias@confluent.io>>
> Subject: Re: more uniform task assignment across kafka stream nodes
> Date: March 25, 2017 at 6:04:30 PM PDT
> To: users@kafka.apache.org<mailto:users@kafka.apache.org><mailto:
> users@kafka.apache.org>
> Reply-To: <users@kafka.apache.org<mailto:users@kafka.apache.org><mailto:
> users@kafka.apache.org>>
>
>
> Ara,
>
> How do you consume your topics? Via
>
> builder.stream("topic1", "topic2", "topic3);
>
> or via
>
> builder.stream("topic1");
> builder.stream("topic2");
> builder.stream("topic3");
>
> Both and handled differently with regard to creating tasks (partition to
> task assignment also depends on you downstream code though).
>
> If this does not help, can you maybe share the structure of processing?
> To dig deeper, we would need to know the topology DAG.
>
>
> -Matthias
>
>
> On 3/25/17 5:56 PM, Ara Ebrahimi wrote:
> Mathias,
>
> This apparently happens because we have more than 1 source topic. We have 3
> source topics in the same application. So it seems like the task assignment
> algorithm creates topologies not for one specific topic at a time but the
> total partitions across all source topics consumed in an application
> instance. Because we have some code dependencies between these 3 source
> topics we can’t separate them into 3 applications at this time. Hence the
> reason I want to get the task assignment algorithm basically do a uniform
> and simple task assignment PER source topic.
>
> Ara.
>
> On Mar 25, 2017, at 5:21 PM, Matthias J. Sax <matthias@confluent.io<mailto:
> matthias@confluent.io><mailto:matthias@confluent.io><mailto:
> matthias@confluent.io>> wrote:
>
>
>
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> Subject: Re: more uniform task assignment across kafka stream nodes
> Date: March 25, 2017 at 5:21:47 PM PDT
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>
>
> Hi,
>
> I am wondering why this happens in the first place. Streams,
> load-balanced over all running instances, and each instance should be
> the same number of tasks (and thus partitions) assigned.
>
> What is the overall assignment? Do you have StandyBy tasks configured?
> What version do you use?
>
>
> -Matthias
>
>
> On 3/24/17 8:09 PM, Ara Ebrahimi wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there a way to tell kafka streams to uniformly assign partitions across
> instances? If I have n kafka streams instances running, I want each to
> handle EXACTLY 1/nth number of partitions. No dynamic task assignment
> logic. Just dumb 1/n assignment.
>
> Here’s our scenario. Lets say we have an “source" topic with 8 partitions.
> We also have 2 kafka streams instances. Each instances get assigned to
> handle 4 “source" topic partitions. BUT then we do a few maps and an
> aggregate. So data gets shuffled around. The map function uniformly
> distributes these across all partitions (I can verify that by looking at
> the partition offsets). After the map what I notice by looking at the
> topology is that one kafka streams instance get assigned to handle say 2
> aggregate repartition topics and the other one gets assigned 6. Even worse,
> on bigger clusters (say 4 instances) we see say 2 nodes gets assigned
> downstream aggregate repartition topics and 2 other nodes assigned NOTHING
> to handle.
>
> Ara.
>
>
>
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