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From Charles Moulliard <cmoulli...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Release Karaf version 2.1.0
Date Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:41:52 GMT
+1

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On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Freeman Fang <freeman.fang@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 for this release.
>
> Thanks
> Freeman
> On 2010-9-24, at 下午8:12, Jamie G. wrote:
>
>> Very good :)
>>
>> Ok, back to the main topic of this vote for Apache Karaf 2.1.0. I'll
>> be closing this vote soon, so please if you haven't reviewed and
>> replied here yet please do so :)
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Guillaume Nodet <gnodet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Please don't waste too much time editing the wiki.
>>> I've been working on a rewritten manual for karaf at
>>>  http://github.com/gnodet/karafdoc
>>> which includes a generated help page for all existing commands in karaf.
>>> I plan to move that back into svn once scalate is released (which is
>>> waiting for karaf 2.1 release actually).
>>>
>>> I'm happy to give karma to anyone in the meantime.
>>>
>>> I agree we need to list all the known properties somewhere though.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 13:58, Jamie G. <jamie.goodyear@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> To add to the confusion there are some other related properties:
>>>>
>>>> {code}
>>>> # To enable the use of the startup.properties file to control the start
>>>> level:
>>>> karaf.auto.start=startup.properties
>>>>
>>>> org.osgi.framework.startlevel.beginning=100
>>>> karaf.startlevel.bundle=60
>>>> {code}
>>>>
>>>> And I whole heartedly agree with you that we need documentation for
>>>> the updated commands -- we really need a manual entry for each command
>>>> in Karaf. I believe our current documentation is under
>>>> http://karaf.apache.org/41-console-and-commands.html, we'll have to
>>>> start adding those updates here.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Charles Moulliard
>>>> <cmoulliard@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for my mistake. I thought that there was one property when in
>>>>> fact there was two.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would say that if the wiki web site has been updated with the
>>>>> modifications made (description of the command 'la' and new parameter
>>>>> added for 'osgi:list -t') , I accept the promotion of this new
>>>>> release.
>>>>>
>>>>> +1
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Jamie G. <jamie.goodyear@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The property "karaf.lock.level" is used to configure how bundles
are
>>>>>> started or not in a master/slave config. The property
>>>>>> "karaf.systemBundlesStartLevel" is only used by the karaf shell
>>>>>> package in Utils and ListBundles classes... I do not see how this
>>>>>> property will affect the operation of Master/Slave fail over.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 4:11 AM, Guillaume Nodet <gnodet@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, this is very minor annoyance which does not affect the
behavior
>>>>>>> and which has an easy workaround which is to use 'la' instead
of
>>>>>>> 'osgi:list'.
>>>>>>> Also the real purpose is to not show 'system bundles' by default,
>>>>>>> which means the value should be the same as the one used to define
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> threshold when using osgi:start and other related commands.
>>>>>>> I'd think that introducing yet another variable would make things
>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>> more confusing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 07:59, Charles Moulliard
>>>>>>> <cmoulliard@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As this property is used also to configure how bundles are
started
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> not in a master/slave config, I would prefer to have a separate
>>>>>>>> variable to define which bundles are displayed by default
on the
>>>>>>>> console.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So we must solve this before to release karaf 2.1.0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Jamie G. <jamie.goodyear@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The default level can be adjusted by changing the value
of
>>>>>>>>> "karaf.systemBundlesStartLevel" in
>>>>>>>>> $KARAF_HOME/etc/custom.properties.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Down stream users can adjust this value to what ever
level makes
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> most sense for their purposes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Charles Moulliard
>>>>>>>>> <cmoulliard@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I agree with you Gert. It makes no sense to display
only one
>>>>>>>>>> bundle !!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Charles M.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Gert Vanthienen
>>>>>>>>>> <gert.vanthienen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For the one remaining bundle, wouldn't it make
more sense to also
>>>>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>>>>> that one a lower default start level so the out-of-the-box
Karaf
>>>>>>>>>>> installation shows an empty list here instead
of just the one
>>>>>>>>>>> bundle?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Gert Vanthienen
>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source SOA: http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://gertvanthienen.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 23 September 2010 13:46, Adrian Trenaman
>>>>>>>>>>> <trenaman@progress.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yup, mea culpa Charles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We implemented a new feature whereby osgi:list
doesn't barf out
>>>>>>>>>>>> all the
>>>>>>>>>>>> system bundles any more: it just displays
bundles over a
>>>>>>>>>>>> threshold, which is
>>>>>>>>>>>> by default 50. So osgi:list will now print
out your application
>>>>>>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>>>>> bundles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think you can use something like osgi:list
-t 0 to print all
>>>>>>>>>>>> the bundles
>>>>>>>>>>>> above the threshold level of 0.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ade.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 23/09/2010 21:43, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's an expected behavioral change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try the 'la' alias to get all the bundles
and/or look at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> help for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this command which provides a new option
you an use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:49, Charles
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moulliard<cmoulliard@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is something strange. Only
the last bundle is displayed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Mac :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> karaf@root>  osgi:list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> START LEVEL 100 , List Threshold:
50
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  ID   State         Blueprint
     Level  Name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [  31] [Active     ] [Created
    ] [   60] Apache Karaf ::
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shell
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ConfigAdmin Commands (2.1.0)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 5:55 PM,
Guillaume
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nodet<gnodet@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 17:57,
Jamie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> G.<jamie.goodyear@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the delay posting
this to the dev list - my home
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently flooding, bailing
and pumping it out at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We resolved 71 issues in
this release (may take some time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for cwiki to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> update with this page):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KARAF/Karaf+2.1.0+Release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Staging repository:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachekaraf-003/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Release tags:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/karaf/tags/karaf-2.1.0/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please vote to approve this
release:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] +1 Approve the release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] -1 Veto the release (please
provide specific comments)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This vote will be open for
72 hours.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheers,
>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>> ------------------------
>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>> ------------------------
>>> Open Source SOA
>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>
>
>
> --
> Freeman Fang
>
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