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From Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Release Karaf version 2.1.0
Date Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:55:40 GMT
+1 on this release


On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Jamie G. <jamie.goodyear@gmail.com> wrote:
> Very good :)
>
> Ok, back to the main topic of this vote for Apache Karaf 2.1.0. I'll
> be closing this vote soon, so please if you haven't reviewed and
> replied here yet please do so :)
>
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Guillaume Nodet <gnodet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Please don't waste too much time editing the wiki.
>> I've been working on a rewritten manual for karaf at
>>  http://github.com/gnodet/karafdoc
>> which includes a generated help page for all existing commands in karaf.
>> I plan to move that back into svn once scalate is released (which is
>> waiting for karaf 2.1 release actually).
>>
>> I'm happy to give karma to anyone in the meantime.
>>
>> I agree we need to list all the known properties somewhere though.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 13:58, Jamie G. <jamie.goodyear@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> To add to the confusion there are some other related properties:
>>>
>>> {code}
>>> # To enable the use of the startup.properties file to control the start level:
>>> karaf.auto.start=startup.properties
>>>
>>> org.osgi.framework.startlevel.beginning=100
>>> karaf.startlevel.bundle=60
>>> {code}
>>>
>>> And I whole heartedly agree with you that we need documentation for
>>> the updated commands -- we really need a manual entry for each command
>>> in Karaf. I believe our current documentation is under
>>> http://karaf.apache.org/41-console-and-commands.html, we'll have to
>>> start adding those updates here.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Charles Moulliard <cmoulliard@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>> Sorry for my mistake. I thought that there was one property when in
>>>> fact there was two.
>>>>
>>>> I would say that if the wiki web site has been updated with the
>>>> modifications made (description of the command 'la' and new parameter
>>>> added for 'osgi:list -t') , I accept the promotion of this new
>>>> release.
>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> Charles
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Jamie G. <jamie.goodyear@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>> The property "karaf.lock.level" is used to configure how bundles are
>>>>> started or not in a master/slave config. The property
>>>>> "karaf.systemBundlesStartLevel" is only used by the karaf shell
>>>>> package in Utils and ListBundles classes... I do not see how this
>>>>> property will affect the operation of Master/Slave fail over.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 4:11 AM, Guillaume Nodet <gnodet@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>> Yeah, this is very minor annoyance which does not affect the behavior
>>>>>> and which has an easy workaround which is to use 'la' instead of
>>>>>> 'osgi:list'.
>>>>>> Also the real purpose is to not show 'system bundles' by default,
>>>>>> which means the value should be the same as the one used to define
the
>>>>>> threshold when using osgi:start and other related commands.
>>>>>> I'd think that introducing yet another variable would make things
even
>>>>>> more confusing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 07:59, Charles Moulliard <cmoulliard@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>> As this property is used also to configure how bundles are started
or
>>>>>>> not in a master/slave config, I would prefer to have a separate
>>>>>>> variable to define which bundles are displayed by default on
the
>>>>>>> console.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So we must solve this before to release karaf 2.1.0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Jamie G. <jamie.goodyear@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>> The default level can be adjusted by changing the value of
>>>>>>>> "karaf.systemBundlesStartLevel" in $KARAF_HOME/etc/custom.properties.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Down stream users can adjust this value to what ever level
makes the
>>>>>>>> most sense for their purposes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Charles Moulliard
>>>>>>>> <cmoulliard@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I agree with you Gert. It makes no sense to display only
one bundle !!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Charles M.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Gert Vanthienen
>>>>>>>>> <gert.vanthienen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For the one remaining bundle, wouldn't it make more
sense to also give
>>>>>>>>>> that one a lower default start level so the out-of-the-box
Karaf
>>>>>>>>>> installation shows an empty list here instead of
just the one bundle?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Gert Vanthienen
>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> Open Source SOA: http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://gertvanthienen.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 23 September 2010 13:46, Adrian Trenaman <trenaman@progress.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Yup, mea culpa Charles.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We implemented a new feature whereby osgi:list
doesn't barf out all the
>>>>>>>>>>> system bundles any more: it just displays bundles
over a threshold, which is
>>>>>>>>>>> by default 50. So osgi:list will now print out
your application level
>>>>>>>>>>> bundles.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think you can use something like osgi:list
-t 0 to print all the bundles
>>>>>>>>>>> above the threshold level of 0.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Ade.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 23/09/2010 21:43, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's an expected behavioral change.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Try the 'la' alias to get all the bundles
and/or look at the help for
>>>>>>>>>>>> this command which provides a new option
you an use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:49, Charles Moulliard<cmoulliard@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is something strange. Only the
last bundle is displayed on Mac :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> karaf@root>  osgi:list
>>>>>>>>>>>>> START LEVEL 100 , List Threshold: 50
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   ID   State         Blueprint
     Level  Name
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [  31] [Active     ] [Created    
] [   60] Apache Karaf :: Shell
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ConfigAdmin Commands (2.1.0)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Guillaume
Nodet<gnodet@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 17:57, Jamie
G.<jamie.goodyear@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the delay posting this
to the dev list - my home is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently flooding, bailing and
pumping it out at the moment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We resolved 71 issues in this
release (may take some time for cwiki to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> update with this page):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KARAF/Karaf+2.1.0+Release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Staging repository:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachekaraf-003/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Release tags:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/karaf/tags/karaf-2.1.0/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please vote to approve this release:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] +1 Approve the release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] -1 Veto the release (please
provide specific comments)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This vote will be open for 72
hours.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Guillaume Nodet
>> ------------------------
>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>> ------------------------
>> Open Source SOA
>> http://fusesource.com
>>
>



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