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From Andreas Pieber <anpie...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Branching karaf-2.2.x now (Re: Thoughts about Karaf profiles / releases / growing number of dependencies (Re: AW: AW: Problem when starting camel-cxf in karaf)
Date Fri, 04 Feb 2011 13:19:00 GMT
I think this will be rather RCs than Ms; In addition are always work somehow. If
you could push them completely inofficial to the apache-repo I think this is a
good idea getting more ppl to validate it.

kind regards,
andreas

On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 01:58:30PM +0100, Achim Nierbeck wrote:
> +1 on the release branch with a time window to get stable, we might
> consider to release a Milestone at the starting point of such a
> branch. WDYT?
> 
> Achim
> 
> 2011/2/4 Andreas Pieber <anpieber@gmail.com>:
> > Big +1 from my side. I think 2-3 weeks should be sufficient.
> >
> > With the current release cycles of 2-3 month means pushig 2 month features
> > and than 2-3 weeks stabilizing.
> >
> > kind regards,
> > andreas
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 09:01:59AM -0330, Jamie G. wrote:
> >> +1 for creating the Karaf 2.2.x branch now, and moving trunk version
> >> up to 2.99.99-SNAPSHOT. Perhaps we should state a policy of branching
> >> trunk in the lead up to a dot zero release X weeks before a planned
> >> release time? This would make early branching standard practice for
> >> Karaf.
> >>
> >> Jamie
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Guillaume Nodet <gnodet@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Well, not sure why my environment works, but it does ...
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:46, Andreas Pieber <anpieber@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> What we've discussed several times by now :) While the jdk14.asc files are
> >> >> included in the install/deploy cycle the regular ones are not --> I cant release
> >> >> with those files missing
> >> >>
> >> >> kind regards,
> >> >> andreas
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 09:56:45AM +0100, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> >> >>> I can do that release.  What's the problem with the retrotranslator plugin ?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 09:36, Andreas Pieber <anpieber@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>> > Since pax-url uses the maven-translator-plugin I can't release pax-url, but if
> >> >>> > someone else jumps in here I can push out pax-web
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > kind regards,
> >> >>> > andreas
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 09:26:05AM +0100, Achim Nierbeck wrote:
> >> >>> >> +1 for the stable 2.2.x branch for releasing.
> >> >>> >> Regarding the removal of the assembly changes a +1 from me too.
> >> >>> >> Regarding Pax-web and pax-url as being the only SNAPSHOT version still
> >> >>> >> open, I'm
> >> >>> >> working on it but maven didn't like me last night, I wasn't able to
> >> >>> >> sign the jars.
> >> >>> >> Will try another run tonight. Or if someone wants to step up and help me
> >> >>> >> out on this, feel free. The latest version of pax-url and pax-web
> >> >>> >> available on Github
> >> >>> >> can be released. I can manage the release notes later tonight :)
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Regards, Achim
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> 2011/2/4 Guillaume Nodet <gnodet@gmail.com>:
> >> >>> >> > That could well be another valid option.
> >> >>> >> > David, can Geronimo live with a 2.99-SNAPSHOT for a while or would
> >> >>> >> > that be needed soon ?
> >> >>> >> > I guess we could also release a bunch of RC somehow if needed for
> >> >>> >> > geronimo milestones.
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 07:24, Andreas Pieber <anpieber@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>> >> >> +1 for doing so and the name. I think we are already very late with this. We
> >> >>> >> >> should have forked about 4 weeks ago...
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> BTW, I think we should consider removing assemlies and features /assembly /
> >> >>> >> >> framework from 2.2.x. IMHO this requires more work and fine tuning before
> >> >>> >> >> release
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Kind regards
> >> >>> >> >> Andreas
> >> >>> >> >> On 4 Feb 2011 07:06, "Guillaume Nodet" <gnodet@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>> >> >>> If there are no objections, I'll branch karaf-2.2.x now in order to
> >> >>> >> >>> get the release stabilized as suggested by Andreas.
> >> >>> >> >>> This means any new development will occur in trunk which will moved to
> >> >>> >> >>> 2.99.99-SNAPSHOT ?
> >> >>> >> >>>
> >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 04:34, Andreas Pieber <anpieber@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>> >> >>>> OK, there are many points in my head about this for some time now and I
> >> >>> >> >> hope I
> >> >>> >> >>>> get them out straight here. If I'm not able to make any of my points
> >> >>> >> >> clear don't
> >> >>> >> >>>> hesitate to ask :)
> >> >>> >> >>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>> First of all I'm completely with Guillaume. I don't like the way Karaf
> >> >>> >> >> blows
> >> >>> >> >>>> up. We have a standard and an enterprise distribution and a minimal
> >> >>> >> >> distribution
> >> >>> >> >>>> and in future one for android... STOP. I think this is not the way Karaf
> >> >>> >> >> should go.
> >> >>> >> >>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>> In addition, tbh I also don't like the way client projects (such as smx)
> >> >>> >> >> have to
> >> >>> >> >>>> tweak Karaf around to make it runnable. This makes everything complex and
> >> >>> >> >> not
> >> >>> >> >>>> easy to use understand/start with.
> >> >>> >> >>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>> Next I think the root of all evil are our configuration files. The need
> >> >>> >> >> that we
> >> >>> >> >>>> have to tweak system.properties, custom.properties, jre.properties,
> >> >>> >> >>>> org...features.cfg to get a running, custom distribution. This does not
> >> >>> >> >> feel
> >> >>> >> >>>> right.
> >> >>> >> >>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>> Fourth: I don't like that we need to use our own maven plugins to build
> >> >>> >> >> Karaf is
> >> >>> >> >>>> IMHO a sign that Karaf is becoming much too big...
> >> >>> >> >>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>> Last but not least, I hate that I have to google for all those feature
> >> >>> >> >> urls
> >> >>> >> >>>> and collect them locally to not forgetting them :)
> >> >>> >> >>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>> OK, so far to the problems. According to the mails I've read by now I
> >> >>> >> >> think I'm
> >> >>> >> >>>> not the only one aware of those problems :) --> I would propose some
> >> >>> >> >> roadmap
> >> >>> >> >>>> to get this straight again:
> >> >>> >> >>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>> 1) branch off karaf-2.x branch now (independent of the missing versions)
> >> >>> >> >> and
> >> >>> >> >>>> stay as it is now. Some ppl already depend on karaf-2.1.99-SNAPSHOT and I
> >> >>> >> >> don't
> >> >>> >> >>>> think that we'll make friends if we make any drastically changes to this
> >> >>> >> >>>> version.
> >> >>> >> >>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>> 2) Start developing karaf-2.99.99-SNAPSHOT right now.
> >> >>> >> >>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>> 3) As a first step I think we should add something like an online
> >> >>> >> >> registry to
> >> >>> >> >>>> Karaf where feature files could be found. E.g. something like
> >> >>> >> >>>> karaf.apache.org/registry.xml. This would allow us to make Karaf behave
> >> >>> >> >> the same
> >> >>> >> >>>> without having to pack everything together during assembly phase. Here it
> >> >>> >> >> may
> >> >>> >> >>>> also help to add a features:addregistryurl command allowing clients to
> >> >>> >> >> host
> >> >>> >> >>>> their own registries.
> >> >>> >> >>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>> 4) Move enterprise.features.xml into aries project, split
> >> >>> >> >> standard.features.xml
> >> >>> >> >>>> into the different projects: karaf-obr, karaf-ssh, ops4j-web (e.g. with
> >> >>> >> >> jetty),
> >> >>> >> >>>> spring2, spring3, ... and create own projects for the additional
> >> >>> >> >> components. I'm
> >> >>> >> >>>> with Jamie that this will complex the release process, but IMHO
> >> >>> >> >> everything we
> >> >>> >> >>>> create features files for shouldn't be in the core. As said somehow I
> >> >>> >> >> even don't
> >> >>> >> >>>> like that we have features.xml in the core at all. All those features.xml
> >> >>> >> >> have
> >> >>> >> >>>> to be added to the registry. This way we could guarantee that Karaf still
> >> >>> >> >>>> behaves the same although we've reduced the core
> >> >>> >> >> packages/repo/distribution.
> >> >>> >> >>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>> 5) We have to extend the kar/features.xml model drastically adding
> >> >>> >> >> variation
> >> >>> >> >>>> points for the different configuration possibilities in Karaf. E.g. we
> >> >>> >> >> need a
> >> >>> >> >>>> variation point for lib, jre.properties, etc/(to add additional property
> >> >>> >> >> files),
> >> >>> >> >>>> system (where we drop additional .jre bundles, ...), brandings, ... With
> >> >>> >> >> that some variation
> >> >>> >> >>>> points require Karaf to reboot (we couldn't change everything at
> >> >>> >> >> runtime). Which
> >> >>> >> >>>> means we have to cache the changes and apply them on reboot. In addition
> >> >>> >> >> I know
> >> >>> >> >>>> that there will be some pain in config file merging, but I think this
> >> >>> >> >> will be
> >> >>> >> >>>> worth the effort.
> >> >>> >> >>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>> 6) Now that we've removed all the specific things from Karaf we can
> >> >>> >> >> reduce the
> >> >>> >> >>>> build process completely to one minimal distribution of Karaf (at maximum
> >> >>> >> >> one
> >> >>> >> >>>> additional for android?!) without using the features concepts directly in
> >> >>> >> >> the
> >> >>> >> >>>> kernel. This will also allow us to develop the karaf-maven-plugin
> >> >>> >> >> directly in
> >> >>> >> >>>> the kernel without the burden of forking the process anywhere.
> >> >>> >> >>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>> 7) I think by that we're almost finished now. We can start contributing
> >> >>> >> >>>> features/kar packages for cxf, apache ds, camel, ... and add them again
> >> >>> >> >> to the
> >> >>> >> >>>> registry. For this process the karaf-maven-plugin could/should be used.
> >> >>> >> >>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>> 8) Now a user will first of all create its own kar/features which tweak
> >> >>> >> >> the
> >> >>> >> >>>> kernel as required. Finally he can either provide the kar/features bundle
> >> >>> >> >> only.
> >> >>> >> >>>> The assembly process will (and should) always look like (reduced):
> >> >>> >> >>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>> karaf-maven-plugin
> >> >>> >> >>>> execution: distribution
> >> >>> >> >>>> kar-list (branding, docs, ... everything is a kar file, nothing more
> >> >>> >> >> here)
> >> >>> >> >>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>> IMHO with all of this we can finally provide only one very small
> >> >>> >> >> distribution.
> >> >>> >> >>>> Someone only experimenting/developing can do a
> >> >>> >> >>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>> features:install war, cfx, ds
> >> >>> >> >>>> admin:reboot
> >> >>> >> >>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>> Everyone else can create distributions as he likes.
> >> >>> >> >>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>> OK, I know that not all of those points are new or exclusively by me,
> >> >>> >> >> some go a
> >> >>> >> >>>> little bit a different direction than discussed by now and not all of
> >> >>> >> >> them are
> >> >>> >> >>>> nailed down to the latest detail (by now). Please don't flame me because
> >> >>> >> >> of this;
> >> >>> >> >>>> I know that this is not the only way to go but it somehow feels right to
> >> >>> >> >> me :)
> >> >>> >> >>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>> so... wdyt?
> >> >>> >> >>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>> kind regards,
> >> >>> >> >>>> andreas
> >> >>> >> >>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>> On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 12:07:42AM +0100, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> >> >>> >> >>>>> Yeah, the problem is that Karaf itself isn't a container for Camel or
> >> >>> >> >>>>> CXF and we have some users that just want to plain JRE without any
> >> >>> >> >>>>> tweaks for running SAAJ because they don't care.
> >> >>> >> >>>>> ServiceMix on the other hand is dedicated to host such applications,
> >> >>> >> >>>>> so that's why the default config works better.
> >> >>> >> >>>>> I'm ok with the idea of profiles in karaf, but we need to make sure we
> >> >>> >> >>>>> don't end up with having to include and depend on all apache projects,
> >> >>> >> >>>>> as Karaf itself has imho no purpose of becoming a default distribution
> >> >>> >> >>>>> of CXF, Camel, ActiveMQ, Directory, etc...
> >> >>> >> >>>>> I think each project could easily provide a karaf features so that
> >> >>> >> >>>>> they would easily be deployed in a bare Karaf, but at some point, it
> >> >>> >> >>>>> does not really scale nor make sense to put everything back into
> >> >>> >> >>>>> Karaf.
> >> >>> >> >>>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> Tweaking the system properties is sometimes needed depending on what
> >> >>> >> >>>>> you need to deploy, because OSGi is lacking on certain areas (or
> >> >>> >> >>>>> because the JVM isn't really modular, depending on how you see
> >> >>> >> >>>>> things).  Some people are happy with using the JAXB implementation
> >> >>> >> >>>>> from the JVM without being able to change it easily, some people may
> >> >>> >> >>>>> want to be able to deploy those as OSGi bundles.  Karaf can't do both
> >> >>> >> >>>>> at the same time.
> >> >>> >> >>>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> Another point, is that the amount of third party dependencies is
> >> >>> >> >>>>> becoming increasingly important in Karaf, and that's really becoming a
> >> >>> >> >>>>> problem for simply releasing Karaf in an efficient manner.
> >> >>> >> >>>>> So I'm tempted to say that we should push back on those projects and
> >> >>> >> >>>>> have them provide karaf features, rather than having karaf providing
> >> >>> >> >>>>> features for those.  I'm mostly thinking here about pax-web and the
> >> >>> >> >>>>> war support (which is really cool, no doubt on that) and aries and
> >> >>> >> >>>>> support for things we don't embed by default (jpa, etc..).
> >> >>> >> >>>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> I certainly don't have a good answer yet, but I just want to make sure
> >> >>> >> >>>>> everyone is aware of the potential problem.
> >> >>> >> >>>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> If we keep adding dependencies, our release cycles will necessarily be
> >> >>> >> >>>>> longer and longer ....  For example camel has a release cycle of one
> >> >>> >> >>>>> minor version every few months, ServiceMix even less, while CXF has
> >> >>> >> >>>>> much less external dependencies and manage to keep a high frequency of
> >> >>> >> >>>>> releases.  2.2 could have been shipped early december, but we were
> >> >>> >> >>>>> waiting for aries.  Now aries has been released, but we still have
> >> >>> >> >>>>> some snapshots dependencies on some felix or ops4j components.  And
> >> >>> >> >>>>> we've added stuff that's not completely stabilized.
> >> >>> >> >>>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> Once again, I'm just trying to state facts so that everybody
> >> >>> >> >>>>> understand the situation.  I'm personnaly not really happy that the
> >> >>> >> >>>>> 2.2 release is planned since 2 months but still can't get out and I
> >> >>> >> >>>>> think it clearly means that we're going in a wrong direction somehow
> >> >>> >> >>>>> ....
> >> >>> >> >>>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> Sorry for the rant.  There are a bunch of unrelated things here, ...
> >> >>> >> >>>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:29, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb@nanthrax.net>
> >> >>> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>> >> >>>>> > Claus already raised a Jira about that.
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>> >> >>>>> > Guillaume wasn't very ok to set the jre.properties by default.
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>> >> >>>>> > On the other hand, I launched a discussion thread about Karaf
> >> >>> >> >> profiles. It's
> >> >>> >> >>>>> > typically the kind of tuning which is part of a profiles.
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>> >> >>>>> > Waiting for the profiles design, we can provide a Karaf Enterprise
> >> >>> >> >>>>> > distribution including this kind of tuning related to Camel/CXF/SMX.
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>> >> >>>>> > I add Karaf dev mailing list to see what the team says :)
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>> >> >>>>> > Regards
> >> >>> >> >>>>> > JB
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>> >> >>>>> > On 02/02/2011 11:21 AM, Christian Schneider wrote:
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >> Are these adapted jre.properties only usefull for Servicemix and the
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >> Talend Service Factory or do you think it would make sense to change
> >> >>> >> >> them in
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >> the karaf distribution.
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >> Best regards
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >> Christian
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >> Von: Jean-Baptiste Onofré [mailto:jb@nanthrax.net]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Februar 2011 11:02
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >> An: users@camel.apache.org
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >> Betreff: Re: AW: Problem when starting camel-cxf in karaf
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >> Yeah, you can take a look on the ServiceMix one too :)
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >> Regards
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >> JB
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >> On 02/02/2011 10:26 AM, Christian Schneider wrote:
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> I think I was able to solve the problem. I had to change the
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> jre.properties to exclude some packages from the system bundle
> >> >>> >> >> export.
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> The jre.properties from the Talend Service Factory seem to work:
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> http://de.talend.com/products-application-integration/talend-service-factory-community-edition.php
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> Christian
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> Von: Christian Schneider [mailto:cschneider@talend.com]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Februar 2011 09:52
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> An: users@camel.apache.org
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> Betreff: Problem when starting camel-cxf in karaf
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> Hi all,
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> I am trying to run Apache Camel (feature camel-cxf) in Apache Karaf.
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> I am using a fresh Karaf 2.1.3 download.
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> I start karaf and enter:
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>> features:addurl
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>> mvn:org.apache.camel.karaf/apache-camel/2.6.0/xml/features
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>> features:install camel-cxf
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> I get an exception while starting
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> org.apache.servicemix.bundles.saaj-impl:
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> Unable to resolve 97.0: missing requirement [97.0] package;
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> (package=com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.dom)
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> Any idea what I am doing wrong?
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> Christian
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> ----------------------
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 02.02.2011 09:46:08 org.apache.karaf.main.SimpleFileLock lock
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> INFO: locking
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:09,765 | INFO  | FelixStartLevel  | jmx
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 - org.apache.aries.jmx
> >> >>> >> >> -
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Starting JMX OSGi agent
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:09,781 | INFO  | FelixStartLevel  | jmx
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 - org.apache.aries.jmx
> >> >>> >> >> -
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Registering MBean with ObjectName
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> [osgi.compendium:service=cm,version=1.3] for service with service.id[10]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:09,796 | WARN  | rint Extender: 3 | BlueprintContainerImpl
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.features.command is
> >> >>> >> >> waiting for
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> namespace handlers
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
> >> >>> >> >> http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:09,796 | WARN  | rint Extender: 2 | BlueprintContainerImpl
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.shell.osgi is waiting for
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> namespace handlers
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
> >> >>> >> >> http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:09,796 | WARN  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 - org.apache.aries.jmx
> >> >>> >> >> -
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | There are no MBean servers registred, can't
> >> >>> >> >> register
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> MBeans
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:09,890 | WARN  | rint Extender: 2 | BlueprintContainerImpl
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.shell.console is waiting
> >> >>> >> >> for
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> namespace handlers
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
> >> >>> >> >> http://aries.apache.org/blueprint/xmlns/blueprint-ext/v1.0.0))]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:09,968 | WARN  | rint Extender: 2 | BlueprintContainerImpl
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.shell.dev is waiting for
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> namespace handlers
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
> >> >>> >> >> http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:10,218 | WARN  | rint Extender: 3 | BlueprintContainerImpl
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.shell.ssh is waiting for
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> namespace handlers
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
> >> >>> >> >> http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:10,234 | WARN  | rint Extender: 3 | BlueprintContainerImpl
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.admin.command is waiting
> >> >>> >> >> for
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> namespace handlers
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
> >> >>> >> >> http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:10,250 | WARN  | rint Extender: 3 | BlueprintContainerImpl
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.shell.commands is waiting
> >> >>> >> >> for
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> namespace handlers
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
> >> >>> >> >> http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:10,375 | WARN  | rint Extender: 2 | BlueprintContainerImpl
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.shell.packages is waiting
> >> >>> >> >> for
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> namespace handlers
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
> >> >>> >> >> http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:11,609 | INFO  | Thread-5         | FeaturesServiceImpl
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>  | res.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl  293 | 19 -
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> org.apache.karaf.features.core - 2.1.3 | Bundles to refresh:
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:11,640 | INFO  | rint Extender: 3 | SecurityUtils
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>  | e.sshd.common.util.SecurityUtils   80 | 25 - sshd-core - 0.4.0 |
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> BouncyCastle not registered, using the default JCE provider
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:11,968 | INFO  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 - org.apache.aries.jmx
> >> >>> >> >> -
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Registering
> >> >>> >> >> org.osgi.jmx.framework.BundleStateMBean to
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> MBeanServer com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.JmxMBeanServer@6e3d60 with name
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> osgi.core:type=bundleState,version=1.5
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:12,000 | INFO  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 - org.apache.aries.jmx
> >> >>> >> >> -
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Registering
> >> >>> >> >> org.osgi.jmx.framework.ServiceStateMBean to
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> MBeanServer com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.JmxMBeanServer@6e3d60 with name
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> osgi.core:type=serviceState,version=1.5
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:12,000 | INFO  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 - org.apache.aries.jmx
> >> >>> >> >> -
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Registering org.osgi.jmx.framework.FrameworkMBean
> >> >>> >> >> to
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> MBeanServer com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.JmxMBeanServer@6e3d60 with name
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> osgi.core:type=framework,version=1.5
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:12,031 | INFO  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 - org.apache.aries.jmx
> >> >>> >> >> -
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Registering
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> org.osgi.jmx.service.cm.ConfigurationAdminMBean to MBeanServer
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.JmxMBeanServer@6e3d60 with name
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> osgi.compendium:service=cm,version=1.3
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:12,031 | INFO  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 - org.apache.aries.jmx
> >> >>> >> >> -
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Registering
> >> >>> >> >> org.osgi.jmx.framework.PackageStateMBean to
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> MBeanServer com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.JmxMBeanServer@6e3d60 with name
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> osgi.core:type=packageState,version=1.5
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:48:08,234 | INFO  | l Console Thread | FeaturesServiceImpl
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>  | res.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl  293 | 19 -
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> org.apache.karaf.features.core - 2.1.3 | Bundles to refresh:
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:48:08,656 | INFO  | l Console Thread | ContextLoaderListener
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>  | .activator.ContextLoaderListener  356 | 44 -
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> org.springframework.osgi.extender - 1.2.0 | Starting
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> [org.springframework.osgi.extender] bundle v.[1.2.0]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:48:08,781 | INFO  | l Console Thread | ExtenderConfiguration
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>  | al.support.ExtenderConfiguration  150 | 44 -
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> org.springframework.osgi.extender - 1.2.0 | No custom extender
> >> >>> >> >> configuration
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> detected; using defaults...
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:48:08,781 | INFO  | l Console Thread | TimerTaskExecutor
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>  | heduling.timer.TimerTaskExecutor  106 | 38 -
> >> >>> >> >> org.springframework.context
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> - 3.0.5.RELEASE | Initializing Timer
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:48:09,281 | INFO  | l Console Thread | Activator
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>  | apache.camel.impl.osgi.Activator   83 | 51 -
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.camel.camel-core
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> - 2.6.0 | Camel activator starting
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:48:09,312 | INFO  | l Console Thread | Activator
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>  | apache.camel.impl.osgi.Activator   86 | 51 -
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.camel.camel-core
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> - 2.6.0 | Camel activator started
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:48:10,968 | INFO  | l Console Thread | Activator
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>  | apache.camel.impl.osgi.Activator   90 | 51 -
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.camel.camel-core
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> - 2.6.0 | Camel activator stopping
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:48:10,968 | INFO  | l Console Thread | Activator
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>  | apache.camel.impl.osgi.Activator   92 | 51 -
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.camel.camel-core
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> - 2.6.0 | Camel activator stopped
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:48:11,984 | INFO  | l Console Thread | ContextLoaderListener
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>  | .activator.ContextLoaderListener  449 | 44 -
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> org.springframework.osgi.extender - 1.2.0 | Stopping
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> [org.springframework.osgi.extender] bundle v.[1.2.0]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:48:11,984 | INFO  | l Console Thread | TimerTaskExecutor
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>  | heduling.timer.TimerTaskExecutor  179 | 38 -
> >> >>> >> >> org.springframework.context
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> - 3.0.5.RELEASE | Cancelling Timer
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:48:12,281 | INFO  | l Console Thread | Console
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>  | araf.shell.console.jline.Console  188 | 11 -
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> org.apache.karaf.shell.console - 2.1.3 | Exception caught while
> >> >>> >> >> executing
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> command
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> java.lang.Exception: Could not start bundle
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> mvn:org.apache.servicemix.bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.saaj-impl/1.3.2_1
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> in feature(s) camel-cxf-2.6.0: Unresolved constraint in bundle
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> org.apache.servicemix.bundles.saaj-impl [97]: Unable to resolve
> >> >>> >> >> 97.0:
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> missing requirement [97.0] package;
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> (package=com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.dom)
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.karaf.features.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl.installFeatures(FeaturesServiceImpl.java:326)[19:org.apache.karaf.features.core:2.1.3]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.karaf.features.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl.installFeature(FeaturesServiceImpl.java:254)[19:org.apache.karaf.features.core:2.1.3]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.karaf.features.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl.installFeature(FeaturesServiceImpl.java:250)[19:org.apache.karaf.features.core:2.1.3]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.karaf.features.command.InstallFeatureCommand.doExecute(InstallFeatureCommand.java:51)[9:org.apache.karaf.features.command:2.1.3]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.karaf.features.command.FeaturesCommandSupport.doExecute(FeaturesCommandSupport.java:39)[9:org.apache.karaf.features.command:2.1.3]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.karaf.shell.console.OsgiCommandSupport.execute(OsgiCommandSupport.java:38)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.felix.gogo.commands.basic.AbstractCommand.execute(AbstractCommand.java:35)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.CommandProxy.execute(CommandProxy.java:50)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.Closure.execute(Closure.java:229)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.Closure.executeStatement(Closure.java:162)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.Pipe.run(Pipe.java:101)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.Closure.execute(Closure.java:79)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.CommandSessionImpl.execute(CommandSessionImpl.java:71)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.karaf.shell.console.jline.Console.run(Console.java:170)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:662)[:1.6.0_23]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> Caused by: org.osgi.framework.BundleException: Unresolved constraint
> >> >>> >> >> in
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> bundle org.apache.servicemix.bundles.saaj-impl [97]: Unable to
> >> >>> >> >> resolve 97.0:
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> missing requirement [97.0] package;
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>> (package=com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.dom)
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.felix.framework.Felix.resolveBundle(Felix.java:3409)[org.apache.felix.framework-3.0.2.jar:]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.felix.framework.Felix.startBundle(Felix.java:1709)[org.apache.felix.framework-3.0.2.jar:]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.felix.framework.BundleImpl.start(BundleImpl.java:905)[org.apache.felix.framework-3.0.2.jar:]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.felix.framework.BundleImpl.start(BundleImpl.java:892)[org.apache.felix.framework-3.0.2.jar:]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >> org.apache.karaf.features.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl.installFeatures(FeaturesServiceImpl.java:323)[19:org.apache.karaf.features.core:2.1.3]
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>                  ... 14 more
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>> >> >>>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>>> --
> >> >>> >> >>>>> Cheers,
> >> >>> >> >>>>> Guillaume Nodet
> >> >>> >> >>>>> ------------------------
> >> >>> >> >>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> >> >>> >> >>>>> ------------------------
> >> >>> >> >>>>> Open Source SOA
> >> >>> >> >>>>> http://fusesource.com
> >> >>> >> >>>>
> >> >>> >> >>>
> >> >>> >> >>>
> >> >>> >> >>>
> >> >>> >> >>> --
> >> >>> >> >>> Cheers,
> >> >>> >> >>> Guillaume Nodet
> >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------
> >> >>> >> >>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------
> >> >>> >> >>> Open Source SOA
> >> >>> >> >>> http://fusesource.com
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > --
> >> >>> >> > Cheers,
> >> >>> >> > Guillaume Nodet
> >> >>> >> > ------------------------
> >> >>> >> > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> >> >>> >> > ------------------------
> >> >>> >> > Open Source SOA
> >> >>> >> > http://fusesource.com
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Cheers,
> >> >>> Guillaume Nodet
> >> >>> ------------------------
> >> >>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> >> >>> ------------------------
> >> >>> Open Source SOA
> >> >>> http://fusesource.com
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Guillaume Nodet
> >> > ------------------------
> >> > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> >> > ------------------------
> >> > Open Source SOA
> >> > http://fusesource.com
> >> >
> >

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