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From Jean-Baptiste Onofré ...@nanthrax.net>
Subject Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
Date Tue, 09 Oct 2012 07:22:34 GMT
We provide such kind of version matrix in the release notes, but it's a 
good idea to have a wiki page that track this (including the major 
versions alignment, Jira ID for the dependency upgrade, etc).

Anyway, for 2.3.0, I'm working on a spring31 feature.

Regards
JB

On 10/09/2012 08:53 AM, Charles Moulliard wrote:
> Even if I understand the karaf position I completely agree about Claus's
> remark to also have Spring 3.1 for Camel and others projects.
>
> What I would like to propose is that we create for Karaf/ServiceMix
> projects a page containing a table of the different software used and have
> a roadmap about them. This question is important not only for Spring
> framework but also Pax, Aries, Felix, ... which are (re)packaged into
> Karaf/ServiceMix
> This will avoid that we discover a few days before the publication of a
> release that we have miss something
>
> Just my 5€ cents.
>
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ibsen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb@nanthrax.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Agree Claus, but Camel is not the only application running on Karaf.
>>>>
>>>> So, we have to think about "others projects" as well.
>>>>
>>>> I have no problem to upgrade to Spring 3.1.x but later (why not imagine
>> a Karaf 2.4.x for that, it could be a good indicator), and propose both
>> Spring 3.0 and 3.1 in Karaf 2.3.0 (depending of the impact, that I gonna
>> test tonight).
>>>
>>> I agree with that.    I know CXF has had very little testing with Spring
>> 3.1.x.    I would definitely prefer keeping on 3.0.7 for Karaf 2.3 and
>> think about that for 2.4.
>>>
>>> I also agree that this is way to close to "release" to flip out a major
>> component like spring.   Maybe a month ago, but not now.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah I can understand the deadline issue as well.
>>
>> But its a shame that the new shiny Karaf 2.3.0 comes out of the box
>> with the old Spring 3.0.7 from Dec 2011. And there has not been any
>> new releases of Spring 3.0.x since.
>>
>> It would be cool if it was possible to provide an easy way for people
>> to switch Karaf to offer Spring 3.1.
>> Maybe that requires to offer a spring31 feature, and an easy way for
>> people to configure Karaf to use that.
>>
>> At Camel we have a CI job that tests Camel with Spring 3.1. The
>> upgrade for Camel has been painless.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>> On 10/08/2012 06:48 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb@nanthrax.net>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> Camel 2.10.x uses Spring 3.0.7 for now, for we are "aligned" with
>> Camel
>>>>>> 2.10.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does it make sense to update to Spring 3.1.x (for future Camel version
>>>>>> maybe) ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well Camel 2.10 supports both Spring 3.0.x and 3.1.x. And we are
>>>>> frankly only holding back because of Karaf.
>>>>> As when people deploy Camel in Karaf they inherit the spring from
>> Karaf.
>>>>>
>>>>> People in the community would like to use Spring 3.1.x as its been out
>>>>> since December 2011.
>>>>> And its the stable release path where they cut new releases.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/08/2012 05:55 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Jamie G. <jamie.goodyear@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Claus,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   From the Karaf 2.3.0 pom file:
>>>>>>>> <spring.osgi.version>1.2.1</spring.osgi.version>
>>>>>>>> <spring2.version>2.5.6.SEC03</spring2.version>
>>>>>>>> <spring.version>3.0.7.RELEASE</spring.version>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Crap I think you guys shoulder consider switching to the 3.1.2
>> release
>>>>>>> of Spring.
>>>>>>> As well Jetty 7.6.7, so people have the latest stable release
of
>> these
>>>>>>> 2 important pieces.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Jamie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ibsen@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What Spring version does Karaf 2.3.0 come with out of
the box?
>> 3.0.x
>>>>>>>>> or the newer 3.1.x ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Jamie G. <
>> jamie.goodyear@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm always ready!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Jamie
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 AM, jb@nanthrax.net <jb@nanthrax.net>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Great, thanks a lot !
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://wwx.talend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Andreas Pieber" <anpieber@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: <dev@karaf.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste
Onofré <
>> jb@nanthrax.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> @Andreas, could you take a look on KARAF-1878
and KARAF-1752
>>>>>>>>>>>> (assigned to
>>>>>>>>>>>> you) ? If you are busy today, I think we
can postpone to 2.3.1.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for review
till tonight; I'll
>> apply
>>>>>>>>>>> afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752 then.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks all guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Claus Ibsen
>>>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>>>> Red Hat, Inc.
>>>>>>>>> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
>>>>>>>>> Email: cibsen@redhat.com
>>>>>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
>>>>>>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>
>>> --
>>> Daniel Kulp
>>> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Claus Ibsen
>> -----------------
>> Red Hat, Inc.
>> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
>> Email: cibsen@redhat.com
>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>> Twitter: davsclaus
>> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
>>
>
>
>

-- 
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com

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