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From Łukasz Dywicki <l...@code-house.org>
Subject Re: RFC on proposal to allow hooks into Karaf shutdown
Date Sun, 02 Dec 2012 22:23:57 GMT
I don't uderstand why you try to force us to introduce some code necessary for YOUR very custom
secnario. As pointed before in this thread, there is plenty of ways to listen for framework
shutdown - starting from FrameworkListener up to BundleListener. 
If you will digg deeper you will find the way which works for you. From our point of view
there is no need to implement any shutdown listeners as our code works well with vanilla OSGi.

Best regards,
Lukasz Dywicki

Wiadomość napisana przez Raman Gupta w dniu 2 gru 2012, o godz. 21:05:

> On 12/02/2012 02:44 PM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>> As I explained, I don't think that's possible.
>> The Main class is only responsible for shutting the framework when using
>> the bin/stop script and it does not have anything to do when shutting down
>> the framework from the inside using osgi:shutdown (or anything calling stop
>> on the system bundle).
> It's not possible or its not optimal? Presumably, each place in the
> Karaf source that initiates a framework shutdown could place a
> "FrameworkShutdownStarted" event onto the OSGi EventAdmin?
> Perhaps this is also an opportunity to refactor the shutdown code and
> move all the framework shutdown related stuff into one place.
>> Another way to ensure that the listener will be called first would be to
>> give to its bundle a very low start level so that it's listener will be
>> registered first.
> True, but this is a bit messy. The bundle that I want to act on the
> event uses Spring-DM, so I can't start it before Spring-DM. I could
> pull out just this functionality into a separate bundle, but its a bit
> messy. Nevertheless, it seems to be the only option now.
> Regards,
> Raman
>> On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Raman Gupta <rocketraman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/30/2012 01:56 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>>> On 11/30/2012 05:15 AM, Raman Gupta wrote:
>>>>> I sent this to the users mailing list, but it probably belongs more on
>>>>> dev. I'd like to hook into the Karaf shutdown process at a higher
>>>>> level than the OSGi bundle shutdown. The bundle shutdown starts
>>>>> prematurely shutting down services and such that are necessary for
>>>>> work in progress to complete.
>>>> it's more or less already available. I'm not against enhancement
>>>> around that, but, maybe it's redundant with the following.
>>>> You can more or less already do something like this using a
>>>> SynchronousBundleListener (you will received the STOPPING event on
>>>> bundleId 0, so the framework), or a FrameworkListener (to hook on
>>>> the framework).
>>> I think there might still be some room for improvement here...
>>> The problem I'm having is that Spring-DM also hooks a
>>> SynchronousBundleListener into the OSGi framework. Because Spring-DM's
>>> listener is registered first, and executes first, it goes ahead and
>>> shuts down all my bundles *before* my listener gets a chance to do
>>> anything useful.
>>> (As an aside, for a STOPPING/STOPPED event, IMO it would make sense to
>>> execute listeners in reverse order i.e. the higher level listeners
>>> registered later should be executed first, rather than last. However,
>>> I guess this wasn't specified in the OSGi spec so nothing can be done
>>> there. There also appears to be no way specified to control the order
>>> explicitly.)
>>> So... I still think it would be useful if Karaf provided an event or
>>> hook for just before a shutdown begins. Thoughts?
>>> Regards,
>>> Raman

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