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From "Jamie G." <jamie.goody...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf marketing
Date Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:39:31 GMT
Wow, nice job on the demo website :)

Another group to discuss Karaf user meet ups is with the OpenDaylight
community - they already have a large network of SDN meet up groups,
they're all Karaf users by default now.

Cheers,
Jamie

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb@nanthrax.net> wrote:
> Hi Achim,
>
> thanks for the update, and great idea about the naming. I will update the
> site proposal accordingly.
>
> For the asciidoc, that's the purpose: link the doc directly in the karaf and
> karaf-boot samples.
>
> For the meetup, for now, I'm talking with potential sponsors. I will get
> back to you soon.
>
> Thanks
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> On 11/12/2015 08:49 AM, Achim Nierbeck wrote:
>>
>> Hi JB,
>>
>> great design for the website.
>> Just one small "critique" I would like to see all Projects of beeing equal
>> to each other, so no "sub-projects" anylonger.
>> Therefore my idea would be to call Karaf -> Karaf-Container (at least in
>> the docs) to show that all of the "sub-projects" are equal in terms of
>> priority to us.
>> This would result in a Karaf-Container, Karaf-Decanter, Karaf-Cellar,
>> Karaf-Cave and last but not least Karaf-Boot on our new website.
>> This in combination with the new Asciidoc related documentation should
>> help
>> a lot.
>> Regarding recipes in the docs, this is where asciidoc comes in real handy
>> cause we can actually link to "online" resources in the asciidoc sources
>> which will be rendered
>> during rendering time. That reduces code duplication, and makes it much
>> easier to point to sample code or test code which already exists in our
>> repository.
>>
>> regarding the meetups idea I'm anxious to find out what you have in mind
>> here.
>>
>> regards, Achim
>>
>>
>> 2015-11-12 7:54 GMT+01:00 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb@nanthrax.net>:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I already discussed with some of you about my plan on Karaf marketing.
>>>
>>> I think clearly that we had a great project, a great team, a great tool,
>>> but we're not really good in term of promotion and marketing.
>>>
>>> Especially, we have to be clear in the message and the projects that we
>>> deliver. For instance, again, I'm sure that karaf-boot is a huge step
>>> forward in Karaf adoption. I'm not sure that all users are aware and know
>>> the purpose of Cellar, Cave, Decanter, and even some Karaf areas.
>>>
>>> In order to improve the Karaf marketing area, I would like to propose the
>>> following plan:
>>>
>>> 1. More professional website
>>> I think we have to improve both the content and the look'n feel of the
>>> website.
>>> In term of content, I think it makes sense to not emphasize on OSGi. The
>>> fact that Karaf runs OSGi is not really interesting for most of end users
>>> (of course, it is for advanced/power users). We have to explain that
>>> Karaf
>>> is modern and multi-purpose container. More over, with karaf-boot, it
>>> becomes also a bootstrapper and "run anywhere" paradigm platform.
>>> So, I started a new website, changing the look'n feel (to give a more
>>> professional shape) and the content (changing the marketing message):
>>>
>>>          http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
>>>
>>> I will complete the website today (some cleanup, other pages than the
>>> home
>>> one, etc), but it already gives you an idea.
>>>
>>> 2. New guides/documentation
>>> I'm working on the improvement in term of content of the documentation.
>>> Especially, the dev guide will be more straight forward, providing
>>> recipes
>>> for users.
>>> All guides will use asciidoc now. You can already see the kind of output
>>> on the Decanter guide:
>>>
>>>          http://karaf.apache.org/manual/decanter/latest-1/index.html
>>>
>>> All Karaf guides (and subprojects) will be rendered in a popup using such
>>> look'n feel.
>>>
>>> 3. Meetups
>>> I plan to organize a Karaf Meetup beginning of 2016. I have some sponsors
>>> in mind. The purpose is to meet most of Karaf users, devs, and
>>> enthusiasts.
>>> I will give you more details soon.
>>>
>>> Thoughts ?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>> --
>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbonofre@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com

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