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From Julian Feinauer <j.feina...@pragmaticminds.de>
Subject Re: Hello World!
Date Wed, 18 Sep 2019 14:36:58 GMT
Hey JB,

very welcome.
Since I played around I like Karaf more and more and can really imagine us building / moving
our stack to Karaf (I already discussed it a bit with Serge).
Probably it would make sense to setup a call or an online meetup to discuss this, if you like.
You are located in Paris, or?


Am 18.09.19, 02:17 schrieb "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb@nanthrax.net>:

    Thanks for details, I see your point and I agree.
    As said to some guys during ApacheCon, you have to do much better about
    tooling in Karaf.
    Even if Karaf is OSGi powered, the dev can or not use OSGi, and it could
    be just a implementation detail if the tooling is good enough.
    We have some work around this (karaf-boot, winegrowers, ...) on which we
    have to move forward.
    Thanks again Julian for your feedback.
    Le 18 sept. 2019 06:45, Julian Feinauer <j.feinauer@pragmaticminds.de> a
    écrit :
        it was not so much karaf (I kind of liked it from the start) it was
        rather OSGi.
        We come from spring and when I looked through all the osgi material
        lots of it seemed strange and confusing like Aries, Blueprint, DS,
        enRoute, ... .
        Serge helped me a lot with sorting the things in my head and getting
        all clear (also with bundle vs. feature vs. feature-repo) and DS
        stuff and lots more.
        So I think Karaf is already doing an excellent job its rather the
        OSGi world that is damn confusing and one thing that probably could
        help is a small OSGi introduction or something.
        I hope that helps!
        Am 16.09.19, 11:47 schrieb "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb@nanthrax.net>:
            By the way, Julian, I'm curious. Why did you consider Karaf
        "hard for
            you to adopt" ? It's to understand what we can improve (maybe
            message/website, example, whatever) in the project to change that !
            Thanks !
            On 16/09/2019 18:21, Julian Feinauer wrote:
            > Hi everybody,
            > my name is Julian and as I’m new on this list, I just wanted
        to shortly introduce myself. I’m a contributor to some Apache
        projects (PLC4X, IoTDB, Calcite) and I met some karaf folks at the
        ApacheCon in Las Vegas (I was the guy hanging around introducing JB
        and Serge).
            > I have Karaf on my radar for quite some time but always
        considered it to hard for us to adopt.
            > But, as Serge gave me an awesome hands on introduction
        yesterday, I feel like we should really start to work with it and
        see how it goes. So, expect some mails from me here or on user@.
            > Best
            > Julian
            Jean-Baptiste Onofré
            Talend - http://www.talend.com

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