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From Mikael Ståldal <mi...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Planning out what we can do to get Chainsaw back in the game
Date Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:58:23 GMT
Nothing stops you from starting your own log viewer project based on 
whatever technology you want. If it turns out useful, we might even 
consider adopting it as an Apache Logging subproject.

I think it's better if you and we try out what we believe in 
independently, and then we will see what works best.

On 2018-01-20 21:32, Ole Ersoy wrote:
> Still pretty certain you would attract a lot more talent / downloads / 
> interest in general with Visual Studio Code (Typescript) and Stackblitz:
> https://stackblitz.com/
> It's essentially Kotlin but a lot more feature rich.
> Ole
> On 01/20/2018 12:00 PM, Matt Sicker wrote:
>> I've put out rc2 now that we have some fixes in place there.
>> My professional situation has changed since I proposed this. Nowadays, 
>> I've
>> been using Kotlin for a project, and I'd have to say that it would be far
>> more appropriate than Scala here due to being easier to learn as a Java
>> developer (or just in general) along with better overlap with Java best
>> practices (Kotlin is essentially a language inspired by Effective Java).
>> Plus, now that Android developers are getting more familiar with 
>> Kotlin as
>> well which could potentially attract contributors (besides being a hip 
>> cool
>> language or whatever).
>> On 13 November 2017 at 17:35, Ole Ersoy <ole.ersoy@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Here's a 10 minute video where an Angular timer application is built and
>>> packaged for all desktops (Apple, M$, Linux - And all browsers) ... 
>>> in 10
>>> minutes.
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_vMChpZMCk
>>> If you use the youtube speedup chrome extension you can probably set the
>>> speedup factor to 2 or 3.  That cuts it down to 3 minutes.
>>> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/youtube-playback-
>>> speed-co/hdannnflhlmdablckfkjpleikpphncik?hl=en-US
>>> Love that thing!
>>> On 11/12/2017 11:37 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>>> It feels to me that this whole topic has gotten side-tracked.
>>>> I think you first need to decide what you want to build before you 
>>>> decide
>>>> on technologies.  Are you building a web application or a desktop? Of
>>>> course, there might be technology that lets you do both, to some 
>>>> degree. As
>>>> far as I know, the only viable language for web applications is 
>>>> Javascript,
>>>> unless you want to build browser plugins. While there might be more 
>>>> variety
>>>> in desktop applications, the usefulness might be more limited - but 
>>>> maybe
>>>> not. After all, there are still a whole lot of desktop based tools 
>>>> around.
>>>> But then you have apps like Microsoft Office where they have built a 
>>>> web
>>>> version and a Windows desktop version and a Mac OS desktop version. 
>>>> I have
>>>> no idea how much, if any, of that code is shared, but again, that is an
>>>> option that could be considered.
>>>> So again, before going down the rabbit hole of technology discussion,
>>>> what is the scope of what the next version of Chainsaw will be?  
>>>> Will it be
>>>> an upgraded version of the existing code base that uses something 
>>>> besides
>>>> Swing, will it be something else, or do we want multiple spin-off 
>>>> projects?
>>>> Ralph

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