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From Robert Bushman <lo...@traxel.com>
Subject Re: LoggingEvent Serialization
Date Sat, 17 Nov 2001 00:24:10 GMT
Ahh, OK, thanks for the background.

Well, rather than adding fuel to the fire, why
don't I take a crack at the native Java version,
then if the XML version is better, or mine
doesn't work out, no harm done, you can just
use the XML version.

Bob

On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Paul Glezen wrote:

> The discussion broke down when some wanted to use XML as the serialization
> scheme while others wanted to continue to use Java serialization.  I was in
> the Java serialization camp.  But the open source community is a "put your
> money where your mouth is" type of group.  Since I was not writing or
> participating strongly in it myself, I didn't push very hard.
>
> Since then, the folks who were going to undertake the effort (presumably
> using XML), were haven't been heard from in a while.
>
> If you've got some good ideas (and time/energy to spend) about how to
> improve the serialization, I think it's worth a go.  I don't think you'll
> suffer from not seeing the older posts.
>
> - Paul
>
> Paul Glezen
> Consulting IT Specialist
> IBM Software Services for WebSphere
> 818 539 3321
>
>
> Robert Bushman <log4j@traxel.com> on 11/16/2001 12:09:51 PM
>
> Please respond to "Log4J Developers List" <log4j-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
>
> To:   Log4J Developers List <log4j-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
> cc:
> Subject:  LoggingEvent Serialization
>
>
>
> What was the basic spin of the discussion?
> "It's easy, just gotta do it.", "It seems
> easy, but <problem> is going to be a real
> problem", "This is a good idea.", "This is
> a bad idea"?
>
> BTW: since I just joined this list, I outta
> introduce myself. I wrote the Category Tree
> for Chainsaw. "But Chainsaw doesn't have a
> Category Tree?!?" Ahhh, but it does:
> http://traxel.com/img/chainsaw-screen-01.png
>
> And a brand spankin' new SourceForge project:
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/logui/
>
> Here's a recent build if you don't want to
> go through the hassle of CVS'ing it.
> http://traxel.com/tools/chainsaw.tar.gz
>
> Requires Log4j 1.1.3 (hence my interest in
> solving the version issue)
>
> On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Paul Glezen wrote:
>
> > Anyone pursuing this might have a look at the log4j-dev archives.  We
> > discussed this topic at length back in June or July.
> >
> > - Paul
> >
> > Paul Glezen
> > Consulting IT Specialist
> > IBM Software Services for WebSphere
> > 818 539 3321
> >
> >
> > Ceki Gulcu <ceki@qos.ch> on 11/16/2001 08:38:01 AM
> >
> > Please respond to "Log4J Developers List" <log4j-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
> >
> > To:   "Log4J Developers List" <log4j-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
> > cc:
> > Subject:  RE: Question about the properties file. Please Help.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Anyone interested in adding version support for LoggingEvent
> serialization?
> > Currently, the sending side and the receiving side of a LoggingEvent have
> > to have the same fields. If a field is added or if a field is removed in
> > LoggingEvent from one log4j version to the next, if the log4j versions do
> > not match, then serialization does not work.
> >
> > It would be useful if we could gracefully handle *some* changes in
> > LoggingEvent. This is quite a nice software engineering problem. Regards,
> > Ceki
>
>
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