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From Gary Gregory <ggreg...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [ANN] Deleting receivers and components 'companions'
Date Wed, 05 Oct 2011 17:25:27 GMT
This might help you get started (from Commons):
https://wiki.apache.org/commons/UsingNexus

Gary

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Scott Deboy <scott.deboy@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes a release ASAP would be great...
>
> I'd love to see a wiki page on how to release as well, with all the steps.
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Scott Deboy <scott.deboy@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Well, rolling them in to core would be an option.  Curt had a rationale
>> for
>> > companions, from a previous email:
>> >
>> > "The motivation to have "companions" as a distinct products was not to
>> keep
>> > the log4j.jar trim, but allow the companions to be available for people
>> who
>> > were stuck with older versions of log4j 1.2 (due to package managers or
>> > other software bundlers liking to distribution ancient versions of log4j
>> > 1.2)."
>> >
>> > I personally don't think support for receivers with older versions of
>> log4j
>> > is a big deal...so I would be ok with moving things in to core.
>>
>> +1
>>
>> In other terms, we should try to get a log4j release out pretty soon
>> to enable a chainsaw release, right?
>>
>> I cannot find a "how to release" page unfortunately. Maybe Curt can
>> comment if he can do / or can help with this task.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Christian
>>
>> >
>> > Scott
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Gary Gregory <ggregory@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Christian Grobmeier <
>> grobmeier@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Gary, thanks for explaining your situation
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Scott Deboy <scott.deboy@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > We could leave receivers as their own companion...component is
so
>> small
>> >>> > it
>> >>> > should either go back in to core or into Chainsaw (there are some
>> >>> > repositoryselector extensions that are useful, etc)..
>> >>>
>> >>> another solution is to make some kind of "logging attic" and leave the
>> >>> code there, unmaintained.
>> >>> Or we do only remove the website as planned and leave the code were
it
>> >>> is.
>> >>>
>> >>> So we have now:
>> >>>
>> >>> 1) move receivers code to log4j-core
>> >>> 2) move receivers code to Chainsaw
>> >>> 3) move receivers code to logging-attic, from which anybody who wants
>> >>> can copy it
>> >>> 4) leave code were it is, just delete the reference from the website.
>> >>> Users who are in need still now were it is or know how to lookup
>> >>
>> >> I like (1), the fewer jars the better for me and the less chance of
>> things
>> >> breaking in the future.
>> >>
>> >> Gayr
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> For the sake of pragmatism I would prefer #3
>> >>>
>> >>> cheers,
>> >>> Christian
>> >>>
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Scott
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Gary Gregory <ggregory@apache.org>
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Hi Christian,
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> We, at Seagull Software, a division of Rocket Software, use
the
>> jars
>> >>> >> in
>> >>> >> our LegaSuite app server [1] and some tools.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Moving the code would be an impediment to updating to the next
>> release
>> >>> >> of
>> >>> >> the jars.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Gary
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> [1]
>> >>> >>
>> http://seagull.rocketsoftware.com/products/application-modernization
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Christian Grobmeier
>> >>> >> <grobmeier@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Gary Gregory <ggregory@apache.org
>> >
>> >>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >>> > We use the XMLSocketReceiver.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Who actually is "we"?
>> >>> >>> Can you copy it over? Or do you need it were it is?
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Cheers
>> >>> >>> Christian
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > Gary
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Scott Deboy <
>> scott.deboy@gmail.com>
>> >>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >> The sources for the unreleased receivers and components
>> companions
>> >>> >>> >> have
>> >>> >>> >> been copied in to the Chainsaw source tree, based
on the
>> >>> >>> >> assumption
>> >>> >>> >> that
>> >>> >>> >> they are only useful to Chainsaw.  Unless there
are any
>> >>> >>> >> objections, I
>> >>> >>> >> plan
>> >>> >>> >> on deleting the component and receivers companions
from
>> >>> >>> >> subversion,
>> >>> >>> >> with
>> >>> >>> >> corresponding changes to the site made shortly
after to remove
>> >>> >>> >> them
>> >>> >>> >> from the
>> >>> >>> >> website.
>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >> The sources were copied unchanged, so if anyone
needs access to
>> a
>> >>> >>> >> receiver, they are still accessible, they would
just need to be
>> >>> >>> >> copied
>> >>> >>> >> out
>> >>> >>> >> of the Chainsaw source tree.
>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >> When the website changes are made, the 'companion's
link will
>> be
>> >>> >>> >> removed
>> >>> >>> >> and replaced with the only remaining standalone
'companion':
>> >>> >>> >> extras.
>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >> Let me know if you have any objections.
>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >> Thanks
>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >> Scott
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> >
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>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
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