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From Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [ANN] Deleting receivers and components 'companions'
Date Wed, 05 Oct 2011 17:49:16 GMT
>> But to be honest, I am not even sure if Nexus has been used before for
>> log4j.  Well... lets see if Curt can comment, as he has done the past
>> releases.
>
> Check.
>
> It's easy enough to ask infra to set up Nexus for a component through a
> JIRA, I just did it for Commons IO and a while back for Commons Codec.

+1

And it is fun to release with Nexus. Anyway, feel invited to help with
release, if you want. Logging is always looking forward for fresh
blood :-)

Cheers

>
> Gary
>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Christian
>>
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Scott Deboy <scott.deboy@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Yes a release ASAP would be great...
>> >>
>> >> I'd love to see a wiki page on how to release as well, with all the
>> >> steps.
>> >>
>> >> Scott
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Christian Grobmeier
>> >> <grobmeier@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Scott Deboy <scott.deboy@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > Well, rolling them in to core would be an option.  Curt had a
>> >>> > rationale
>> >>> > for
>> >>> > companions, from a previous email:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > "The motivation to have "companions" as a distinct products was
not
>> >>> > to
>> >>> > keep
>> >>> > the log4j.jar trim, but allow the companions to be available for
>> >>> > people
>> >>> > who
>> >>> > were stuck with older versions of log4j 1.2 (due to package managers
>> >>> > or
>> >>> > other software bundlers liking to distribution ancient versions
of
>> >>> > log4j
>> >>> > 1.2)."
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I personally don't think support for receivers with older versions
>> >>> > of
>> >>> > log4j
>> >>> > is a big deal...so I would be ok with moving things in to core.
>> >>>
>> >>> +1
>> >>>
>> >>> In other terms, we should try to get a log4j release out pretty soon
>> >>> to enable a chainsaw release, right?
>> >>>
>> >>> I cannot find a "how to release" page unfortunately. Maybe Curt can
>> >>> comment if he can do / or can help with this task.
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers
>> >>> Christian
>> >>>
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Scott
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Gary Gregory <ggregory@apache.org>
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Christian Grobmeier
>> >>> >> <grobmeier@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Gary, thanks for explaining your situation
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Scott Deboy
>> >>> >>> <scott.deboy@gmail.com>
>> >>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >>> > We could leave receivers as their own companion...component
is
>> >>> >>> > so
>> >>> >>> > small
>> >>> >>> > it
>> >>> >>> > should either go back in to core or into Chainsaw
(there are
>> >>> >>> > some
>> >>> >>> > repositoryselector extensions that are useful, etc)..
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> another solution is to make some kind of "logging attic"
and leave
>> >>> >>> the
>> >>> >>> code there, unmaintained.
>> >>> >>> Or we do only remove the website as planned and leave the
code
>> >>> >>> were
>> >>> >>> it
>> >>> >>> is.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> So we have now:
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> 1) move receivers code to log4j-core
>> >>> >>> 2) move receivers code to Chainsaw
>> >>> >>> 3) move receivers code to logging-attic, from which anybody
who
>> >>> >>> wants
>> >>> >>> can copy it
>> >>> >>> 4) leave code were it is, just delete the reference from
the
>> >>> >>> website.
>> >>> >>> Users who are in need still now were it is or know how
to lookup
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I like (1), the fewer jars the better for me and the less chance
of
>> >>> >> things
>> >>> >> breaking in the future.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Gayr
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> For the sake of pragmatism I would prefer #3
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> cheers,
>> >>> >>> Christian
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > Scott
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Gary Gregory
>> >>> >>> > <ggregory@apache.org>
>> >>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >> Hi Christian,
>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >> We, at Seagull Software, a division of Rocket
Software, use the
>> >>> >>> >> jars
>> >>> >>> >> in
>> >>> >>> >> our LegaSuite app server [1] and some tools.
>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >> Moving the code would be an impediment to updating
to the next
>> >>> >>> >> release
>> >>> >>> >> of
>> >>> >>> >> the jars.
>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >> Gary
>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >> [1]
>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >> http://seagull.rocketsoftware.com/products/application-modernization
>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Christian Grobmeier
>> >>> >>> >> <grobmeier@gmail.com>
>> >>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Gary Gregory
>> >>> >>> >>> <ggregory@apache.org>
>> >>> >>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >>> >>> > We use the XMLSocketReceiver.
>> >>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> >>> Who actually is "we"?
>> >>> >>> >>> Can you copy it over? Or do you need it were
it is?
>> >>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers
>> >>> >>> >>> Christian
>> >>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> >>> > Gary
>> >>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> >>> > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Scott
Deboy
>> >>> >>> >>> > <scott.deboy@gmail.com>
>> >>> >>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >>> >> The sources for the unreleased receivers
and components
>> >>> >>> >>> >> companions
>> >>> >>> >>> >> have
>> >>> >>> >>> >> been copied in to the Chainsaw source
tree, based on the
>> >>> >>> >>> >> assumption
>> >>> >>> >>> >> that
>> >>> >>> >>> >> they are only useful to Chainsaw. 
Unless there are any
>> >>> >>> >>> >> objections, I
>> >>> >>> >>> >> plan
>> >>> >>> >>> >> on deleting the component and receivers
companions from
>> >>> >>> >>> >> subversion,
>> >>> >>> >>> >> with
>> >>> >>> >>> >> corresponding changes to the site
made shortly after to
>> >>> >>> >>> >> remove
>> >>> >>> >>> >> them
>> >>> >>> >>> >> from the
>> >>> >>> >>> >> website.
>> >>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >>> >> The sources were copied unchanged,
so if anyone needs
>> >>> >>> >>> >> access
>> >>> >>> >>> >> to a
>> >>> >>> >>> >> receiver, they are still accessible,
they would just need
>> >>> >>> >>> >> to
>> >>> >>> >>> >> be
>> >>> >>> >>> >> copied
>> >>> >>> >>> >> out
>> >>> >>> >>> >> of the Chainsaw source tree.
>> >>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >>> >> When the website changes are made,
the 'companion's link
>> >>> >>> >>> >> will
>> >>> >>> >>> >> be
>> >>> >>> >>> >> removed
>> >>> >>> >>> >> and replaced with the only remaining
standalone
>> >>> >>> >>> >> 'companion':
>> >>> >>> >>> >> extras.
>> >>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >>> >> Let me know if you have any objections.
>> >>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >>> >> Thanks
>> >>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >>> >> Scott
>> >>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> >>> > --
>> >>> >>> >>> > E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org
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>> >>> >>> >>> > Home: http://garygregory.com/
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>> >>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> >>>
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