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From Nicholas Williams <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net>
Subject Re: Log4j2: Programmatically setting log4j2 log level
Date Mon, 22 Jul 2013 21:04:06 GMT
I can live with having to use the Core directly to change logger
levels, as opposed to using the API. But your solution of cloning,
changing, and replacing the configuration seems extremely heavy and
excessive for merely changing the level for a single logger. There are
a lot of other things that happen as a result that are completely
unrelated to changing the level for a logger.

Note that org.apache.log4j.Logger from Log4j 1 includes a setLevel
method. While I understand that Log4j 1 isn't a separated
API/implementation like Log4j 2, users are used to being able to
easily change Logger levels, and you WILL (I'm confident) start seeing
"Why is this so hard" questions when Log4j 1 sunsets and users start
migrating en masse.

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> I guess I have to disagree. With Logback it is more explicit since SLF4J is its API.
  The more of this stuff that gets added to the API the more difficult it is going to be to
keep the API separate from the implementation.  My view is that the API is primarily for applications
that want to use Log4j to generate Log events.  Doing things to customize how Appenders, Loggers,
Filters, etc work is very much tied to the implementation.  Note that none of those are exposed
in the API today and you would have to to do what you are proposing.
>
> Ralph
>
> On Jul 22, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:
>
>> This seems like an "obvious" feature and should be part of the public
>> API/feature set (IMO).
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Nick Williams <
>> nicholas@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote:
>>
>>> We do the _exact same thing_ in our apps that use Log4j 1. Being able to
>>> do this is crucial to us. Being able to do this using the API is ideal and
>>> obviously preferred so that the Core can be a runtime dependency, but as
>>> long as we can do it one way or another we're ok.
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>> On Jul 22, 2013, at 2:05 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here is a user story I have at work all the time, which I'd like to be
>>> able
>>>> to do in Log4J 2 when we eventually migrate to it.
>>>>
>>>> Our server starts. A couple of days later, something goes wrong. Our user
>>>> contacts us and we tell them to use our admin console to enable debugging
>>>> for X and Y. This causes the log levels for certain loggers to be set to
>>>> DEBUG, which spits out lots of details. The user then sends us the log
>>> file
>>>> and resets the system to normal. Under the covers the loggers go back to
>>>> INFO or WARN.
>>>>
>>>> Our console sends a request to the server, which in turns uses the log4j
>>> 1
>>>> API to change the log level.
>>>>
>>>> How would I do that in v2?
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers@dslextreme.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Can you explain what it is you are really trying to do?  Rather than
>>> just
>>>>> answer specific questions I am wondering if there isn't a better way
to
>>> do
>>>>> what you want.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 22, 2013, at 7:14 AM, SMITH, CURTIS wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> From a thread back in May:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My question to the below snips of the thread are;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My app has many Catagories (using 1.x terminology).  To setLevel
in 1.x
>>>>> I had to getCurrentCatagories() and iterate over the list setting level.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In 2.x, does the code below set all Appenders regardless of what
Level
>>>>> they were set to in log4j.xml?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> loggerConfig.setLevel(Level.DEBUG);
>>>>>> ctx.updateLoggers();
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The next question is how to set the level of just one Appender
>>>>> (Logger??)  ?   Is there a way to get the list / iterator of
>>>>> Appenders(Logger?)   like you could get a a list of Catagories in 1.x?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It appears that LogManager.getLogger("foo") you need to know the
logger
>>>>> names at coding time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, curt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> =======
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ralph Goers said:
>>>>>>>> No, the X Logger does not inherit its level from the root
Logger. It
>>>>> inherits its level from
>>>>>>    the root LoggerConfig.  See the picture at
>>>>> http://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/manual/architecture.html.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    The level you are modifying is brought into each Logger so that
the
>>>>> level can be tested very
>>>>>>    quickly.  That is why the note on the setLevel method says it
is
>>>>> there primarily for unit
>>>>>>    testing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    To do what you are attempting below you would need to do:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    LoggerContext ctx = (LoggerContext) LogManager.getContext(false);
>>>>>>    Configuration config = ctx.getConfiguration();
>>>>>>    LoggerConfig loggerConfig = config.getRootLogger();
>>>>>>    /* You could also specify the actual logger name as below and
it
>>>>> will return the LoggerConfig
>>>>>>    used by the Logger.
>>>>>>        LoggerConfig loggerConfig = getLoggerConfig("X");
>>>>>>    */
>>>>>>    loggerConfig.setLevel(Level.DEBUG);
>>>>>>    ctx.updateLoggers();  // This causes all Loggers to refetch
>>>>> information from their LoggerConfig.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Ralph
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eric Scheie said:
>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>    is the actual code I used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      LoggerContext ctx = (LoggerContext) LogManager.getContext(false);
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Configuration config = ctx.getConfiguration();
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      LoggerConfig loggerConfig = config.getLoggerConfig(LogManager.
>>>>>>    ROOT_LOGGER_NAME);
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      loggerConfig.setLevel(level);
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      ctx.updateLoggers();
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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