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From Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Desire for a Gitter channel?
Date Tue, 25 Jul 2017 15:55:30 GMT
I'm suggesting the use of Gitter as a user support channel, not for
discussing development. I prefer the mailing lists and jira for that
anyways (besides needing to record it there in the first place).

On 25 July 2017 at 10:33, Gary Gregory <garydgregory@gmail.com> wrote:

> Also recall that our actual use of off-ML media should be limited to make
> sure ALL decisions happen on the ML.
>
> Gary
>
> On Jul 25, 2017 02:19, "Mikael Ståldal" <mikes@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > I would prefer if we could chose one or the other, and not have both at
> > the same time.
> >
> >
> > On 2017-07-24 18:46, Matt Sicker wrote:
> >
> >> This link was posted on another mailing list recently in criticism of
> >> Slack: https://bitquabit.com/post/i-hate-slack-and-you-should-too/
> >>
> >> On 18 July 2017 at 09:12, Chandra <chandra.tungathurthi@rwth-aachen.de>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Having used both paid and free service (of slack), I’d say the paid
> >>> service makes a lot of sense for corporates.
> >>> a public forum like this I believe a free tier would suffice — unless
> we
> >>> are looking for an option of having >10k messages for searching + >5gb
> of
> >>> storage [1]. This is just my opinion, but people think otherwise and I
> >>> believe some-biased opinions on Flock too[2].
> >>>
> >>> thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Chandra
> >>> [1] https://dev-s.slack.com/pricing
> >>> [2] https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-pros-and-cons-of-
> Gitter-vs-Slack
> >>>
> >>> On 18 Jul 2017, 7:29 PM +0530, Marshall Schor <msa@schor.com>, wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> what's the diff between gitter and hipchat?
> >>>>
> >>>> Google search seems to maybe be saying hipchat is better for many.
> >>>>
> >>>> We have already Hipchat available, I think. (We've added it to our
> >>>>
> >>> project,
> >>>
> >>>> Apache UIMA).
> >>>>
> >>>> -Marshall Schor
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 7/17/2017 10:20 PM, Matt Sicker wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Gitter is public. And Slack is a paid service (free version has
a lot
> >>>>>
> >>>> of
> >>>
> >>>> limits), so it's not very feasible for public chats without someone
> >>>>>
> >>>> funding
> >>>
> >>>> it. Gitter, however, is free for all GitHub projects (and Gitlab too
I
> >>>>> think?) and is even open source now that Gitlab owns them.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 17 July 2017 at 21:13, Tungathurthi, Chandra Kiran Bharadwaj
<
> >>>>> chandra.tungathurthi@rwth-aachen.de> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hey actually, a slack channel would fit right in. Any specific
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> reason to
> >>>
> >>>> choose gitter over slack ? @matt
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> thanks & regards,
> >>>>>> Chandra
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> From: Gary Gregory
> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 18 July, 07:08
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Desire for a Gitter channel?
> >>>>>> To: Log4J Users List
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So, like a private Slack? Bah, why not, as long as we make sure
to
> >>>>>> document any and all decisions on the ML, it could be OK. Gary
On
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Mon, Jul
> >>>
> >>>> 17, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Matt Sicker wrote: >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> https://gitter.im/apache/home
> >>>
> >>>> We can request a log4j Gitter channel for realtime chat. This
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> could be
> >>>
> >>>> handy for quick questions and other things that waiting on Stack
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Overflow
> >>>
> >>>> or mailing list posts isn't as appropriate for. > > This would
be
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> very
> >>>
> >>>> different from the ASF Slack as it is open to everyone. > > Also,
I
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> find
> >>>
> >>>> chat rooms a bit easier to reply to while at work than > browsing
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Stack
> >>>
> >>>> Overflow. ;) > > -- > Matt Sicker
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
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>



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Matt Sicker <boards@gmail.com>

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