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From Otis Gospodnetic <>
Subject Re: The JDK 1.5 Can o' Worms
Date Thu, 26 Jul 2007 00:33:01 GMT
I like the plan.

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----- Original Message ----
From: Grant Ingersoll <>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 11:17:11 PM
Subject: The JDK 1.5 Can o' Worms

Well, it has been over a year since we have had the 1.5 debate (see 
search_string=Java%201.5;#35972) and I think it is time we start  
accepting 1.5 code. Nutch, Solr, Hadoop all use JDK 1.5 and I imagine  
Tika will as well (and no, I wouldn't jump off the bridge if everyone  
else did, but this is not the same.)

At a deeper level, I find it frustrating to have to dig into methods  
and code that use Collections in order to figure out what is actually  
in the Collection, thus I want generics.  I want to use StringBuilder  
instead of StringBuffer.  I think we could benefit from some of the  
concurrency stuff in 1.5 as well.  I also believe all committers and  
all contributors are using 1.5 already for there environment.  I  
would also _guess_ the large majority of our users are on 1.5.   Now,  
I know, it isn't a big deal to run 1.4 code in 1.5, but it is  
annoying for development and that is a big enough motivator for me.

I would propose we do the following:
1.  Put in any new deprecations we want, cleanups, etc.
2. Release 2.9 so all of Mike M's goodness is available to 1.4  
users.  We could do 2.4 and then 2.9 so that there are two more  
iterations at 1.4 if people want a little more lead out time.    
Still, I think the turnaround on these should be weeks, not months.   
That is, 2.4 is the last significant 2.x release, 2.9 is a bug fix  
and cleanup release and then we move on.
3. Announce that 2.9 will be the last version under JDK 1.4
4. Switch 3.0-dev to be on JDK 1.5, removing any deprecated code.
5. Start accepting 1.5 patches on 3.0-dev

Now, I think if there is someone who is really in dire need of 1.4 we  
could work to give one or two people committer rights (after the  
appropriate process has been undertaken, i.e. patching, interest,  
etc.) on the 2.9 branch and they can be responsible for back-porting.

I'm not calling for a vote at this time, but I probably will after  
some discussion.


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