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From "Robert Muir (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] Commented: (LUCENE-2458) queryparser shouldn't generate phrasequeries based on term count
Date Tue, 11 May 2010 22:39:41 GMT

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Robert Muir commented on LUCENE-2458:
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by the way hoss man you said it best yourself:

{quote}
lots of existing TokenFilters produce chains of tokens for situations where the user creating
the query string clearly intended to be searching for a single "word" and has no idea that
as an implementation detail multiple tokens were produced under the covers (ie: WordDelimiterFilter,
Ngrams, etc...)
{quote}

User clearly intended is wrong. WordDelimiterFilter will break tibetan text in a similar manner
(it uses no spaces between words), yet no user "clearly intended" to form phrase queries.

Users clearly intend to form phrase queries only when they use the phrase query operator,
thats how the query parser is documented to work, and its a bug that it doesnt work that way.

> queryparser shouldn't generate phrasequeries based on term count
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LUCENE-2458
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-2458
>             Project: Lucene - Java
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: QueryParser
>            Reporter: Robert Muir
>            Priority: Critical
>
> The current method in the queryparser to generate phrasequeries is wrong:
> The Query Syntax documentation (http://lucene.apache.org/java/3_0_1/queryparsersyntax.html)
states:
> {noformat}
> A Phrase is a group of words surrounded by double quotes such as "hello dolly".
> {noformat}
> But as we know, this isn't actually true.
> Instead the terms are first divided on whitespace, then the analyzer term count is used
as some sort of "heuristic" to determine if its a phrase query or not.
> This assumption is a disaster for languages that don't use whitespace separation: CJK,
compounding European languages like German, Finnish, etc. It also
> makes it difficult for people to use n-gram analysis techniques. In these cases you get
bad relevance (MAP improves nearly *10x* if you use a PositionFilter at query-time to "turn
this off" for chinese).
> For even english, this undocumented behavior is bad. Perhaps in some cases its being
abused as some heuristic to "second guess" the tokenizer and piece back things it shouldn't
have split, but for large collections, doing things like generating phrasequeries because
StandardTokenizer split a compound on a dash can cause serious performance problems. Instead
people should analyze their text with the appropriate methods, and QueryParser should only
generate phrase queries when the syntax asks for one.
> The PositionFilter in contrib can be seen as a workaround, but its pretty obscure and
people are not familiar with it. The result is we have bad out-of-box behavior for many languages,
and bad performance for others on some inputs.
> I propose instead that we change the grammar to actually look for double quotes to determine
when to generate a phrase query, consistent with the documentation.

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