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From Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Solr Admin UI and SolrCloud
Date Thu, 15 May 2014 15:32:22 GMT
Stefan:

Sure, any time! I'm not -8 UTC (California) now. You're +1 or some
such? Just let me know when our schedules overlap.

I've  put up an umbrella JIRA (SOLR-6082) and made a couple of
sub-tasks as a start.

Here's the place I'm thinking of starting:

follow the SolrCloud getting started (see "Simple Two-Shard cluster on
the Same Machine" in the reference guide), EXCEPT
1> remove the entire "collection1" directory before you copy example to example2
2> start your two instances like this:
  > java -DzkRun -jar start.jar
  > java -Djetty.port=7574 -DzkHost=localhost:9983 -jar start.jar

Now open the cloud link and there are no nodes shown since there are
no collections defined. What's a poor user to do?



On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Stefan Matheis
<matheis.stefan@gmail.com> wrote:
> Erick
>
> it indeed does need a bit work. your mail reminded me of your last mail and
> the collections api :~
>
> especially regarding the whole cloud thing i’m having a hard time, since i’m
> not really using cloud - not even playing around with it. so i have a vague
> idea on how it might work for people .. but that isn’t probably enough to
> start working on it.
>
> if we could have a short chat about it .. i guess that would help :)
> otherwise i’ll try to read about the current features, namings & relations
> to get it sorted it.
>
> just for the record, i’ve talked with mark at LSR in Dublin last year a bit
> about some helpful cloud-stuff, which he wrote down in SOLR-5599 - a bit
> basic perhaps, but might help as well.
>
> -Stefan
>
> On Monday, May 12, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Erick Erickson wrote:
>
> The admin UI (and kudos to _everyone_ who made the new version) could
> use more "cloud awareness". There are cluster-wide operations and
> individual node operations, they're intermixed at this point. Plus, we
> make people switch between a UI and the command-line to accomplish
> what they need to.
>
> How can we restructure them? And should we?
>
> Straw-man proposal follows. NOTE: I have no real attachment to this
> layout, just looking to generate a discussion!
>
> split the cluster-wide operations and node-specific stuff into two pages
> (how to navigate?) The rest of the points are really for the cloud-specific
> page
>
>
> add a collections API interface, similar to the core admin bits. creating
> collections, adding nodes, all that stuff.
>
>
> querying should be do-able on a collection basis rather than after you've
> selected a node on a particular machine
>
>
> showing all the nodes on the system, even ones that don't host current
> shards would be great
>
>
> super, especially wonderful would be a way to select a node and add a
> replica right there for a particular shard, with drop-down lists showing
> available collections, available shards and even suggesting a name for it
> and all that kind of thing.
>
>
> ditto with creating new collections. A drop-down listing the available
> configs would be very cool
>
>
> some UI way to upload a config set. How would we keep security issues around
> allowing file uploads from being a problem?
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
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