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From "Alexandre Rafalovitch (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] [Commented] (LUCENE-6247) artifacts are half a gigabyte
Date Mon, 16 Feb 2015 17:50:13 GMT

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Alexandre Rafalovitch commented on LUCENE-6247:
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bq. I'm being explicit, thats not the problem. I think the problem is that you aren't listening.

Are you really sure I am not listening!?! If I am not listening, then why my slides at the
Solr Revolutions were bitching about Solr distribution size with charts and all? You think
I wasted my precious presentation time on that because it was an easy issue to raise?

There is a bad joke about Americans in a foreign country just repeating the questions (in
English) louder when they are misunderstood. Similarly, I don't think using the same words
again but in all caps (or with a blocker flag) is what will make a difference. You are being
very explicit about *what you want* for Lucene. But when people come back and say that they
disagree or only comment on a part of an issue, you are repeating exactly the same message
just louder. I do not see you addressing different impacts on developers and final users.
Impact is not just size, it's historical implications, 3rd party systems, etc. 

You asked for feedback, you got some, including some representing the issues you - as a hardcore
developer - don't seem to care much about. You were unhappy that the feedback did not fully
agree with your vision, so will now go ahead and do it *your way* anyway. Why did you bother
asking then, apart from Grandstanding? 

The saddest thing is that people are mostly agreeing with you on this issue. Yet, the conversation
is rapidly going in the direction where you will either abandon this with bitter complains
or push things through in the way that only address your own concerns.

> artifacts are half a gigabyte
> -----------------------------
>
>                 Key: LUCENE-6247
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-6247
>             Project: Lucene - Core
>          Issue Type: Bug
>            Reporter: Robert Muir
>            Priority: Blocker
>             Fix For: 5.0
>
>
> This is a growing problem and now, its spun out of control.
> The latest release artifacts are half a gigabyte. sorry, I am against adding more retries
to the smoke tester and continuing down the same path (LUCENE-6231).
> Instead I open this blocker issue to discuss fixing this. Whenever i tried to fix it
before (e.g. removing zips), people complained at me "what are you trying to fix" and wouldn't
let me minimize it in the slightest.
> Now the problem is clear, we have a blocker issue to discuss it.



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