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From "david.w.smiley@gmail.com" <david.w.smi...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: SOLR-7240, java -jar start.jar, and 5.1
Date Wed, 01 Apr 2015 17:51:18 GMT
+1; more time is needed before start.jar can be deprecated/removed.

~ David Smiley
Freelance Apache Lucene/Solr Search Consultant/Developer
http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Timothy Potter <thelabdude@gmail.com>
wrote:

> As Gus points out in the ticket, the cloud-dev scripts are broken too
> :-( So I'm with Erick on this one ...
>
> The fix I'd like to do is to just add start.ini to the server
> directory and leave the SOLR_JETTY_CONFIG var in the scripts alone
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Erick Erickson <erickerickson@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hmmm, can we apply Mak's fix for 5.1 to give us some breathing space
> > to get the release out? My suspeicion is that it'll take some time to
> > get all the docs changed if we don't ship with a working start.jar....
> >
> > Although as usual if I'm not doing the work I'm not sure I have much to
> say...
> >
> > FWIW,
> > Erick
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Timothy Potter <thelabdude@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> SOLR-7240 broke the ability to start Solr using: java -jar start.jar
> >>
> >> To me, that doesn't matter as I always use bin/solr, however this
> >> means ant run-example is broken as-is since it relies on java -jar
> >> start.jar.
> >>
> >> Hossman is on vacation, but here's his response to my marking that as
> >> a blocker for 5.1:
> >>
> >>>>>
> >> As of solr5 we very clearly document that the only supported way to
> >> run solr is bin/solr - we may not have ever explicitly said start.jar
> >> was no longer supported, but we shouldn't have ever needed to because
> >> it was never officially supported either - it was just an *example* of
> >> how to run solr in jetty.
> >>
> >> If we're going to hold back on stuff like this now, I don't see how
> >> were ever going to leave ourselves enough room to gradually replace
> >> the internals like we've talked about for a while, unless we commit to
> >> rolling our own start.jar
> >>
> >> I won't stand in the way if people think this is important, but I give
> >> up on trying to move past "solr is just a web app" if we worry about
> >> stuff like this.
> >> <<<
> >>
> >> Mak has proposed the following solution for 5.1:
> >> https://gist.github.com/makuk66/20c736ae47fc4993c461
> >>
> >> We have 2 paths going forward:
> >>
> >> 1) Stick with the committed solution and accept that java -jar
> >> start.jar no longer works; we'll have to fix ant run-example somehow.
> >>
> >> 2) Apply Mak's fix for 5.1
> >>
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