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From Chiradeep Vittal <>
Subject Re: Extending scoring to eliminate sorting on timestamp
Date Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:49:37 GMT
Thanks for the insight Chris. You are right-- I was trying to avoid the FieldCache hit. Because
the index is updated frequently, we have to keep discarding our IndexSearcher. 
I used String because the timestamp is a Long and there wasn't any SortField.LONG (I guess
I should have used SortField.CUSTOM). In this case, what should the indexing call look like?
Currently, I have:
    doc.add(new Field("timestamp",Long.toString(timestamp),Field.Store.NO,Field.Index.UN_TOKENIZED));

I have been looking at FunctionQuery in Solr, but I didn't realize it would involve the FieldCache

The other thing I was considering is to automatically limit the number of results (there is
no way a user can grok 3 million results anyway) by breaking down the range filter into a
series of range filters and executing multiple searches in series until the max number of
results was returned. Of course, the problem here is that it impacts the average case (when
the number of results is reasonable). One way around this is to execute an initial search
just to figure out the number of hits (without sorting, without scoring) and then apply different
strategies, but I'm not sure that the initial query is always going to be very very fast.

The patch you pointed out looks very very promising.

----- Original Message ----
From: Chris Hostetter <>
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 9:09:12 PM
Subject: Re: Extending scoring to eliminate sorting on timestamp

: For various reasons, we'd like to eliminate the sort step.

can you elaborate on what those reasons are?

FunctionQuery (in the solr code base, you'll find lots of discussing in
the archives of this list) can let you use a numeric field value in the
score calculation, but it still uses the FieldCache so if you are trying
to avoid that for space/time reasons it won't help.

you may also be interested in this patch...

in the general case it should be slower then standard sorting, but if
you are dealing with an extremely large index and your result sets all
tend to be small, it may be faster (and it won't pay the initial
FieldCache setup time on frequently modified indexes)

:                    new SortField("timestamp",SortField.STRING,true)}));

why are you sorting timestamps as strings? ... if you sort them as ints,
your FieldCache will be a whole hell of a lot smaller (i'm guessing very
few documents have identicle timestamps, so your FieldCache should be at
least half as big if you sort on ints (and probably a lot more).


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