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From Ted Dunning <>
Subject Re: Re: Mahout + BigDataR Linux
Date Thu, 03 May 2012 17:15:04 GMT
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Nicholas Kolegraff <
> wrote:

> ... I have this crazy notion that nothing should ever be installed and
> bootstrapping is really annoying.

This opinion is more and more in the minority.  Yum and apt have made this
much less painful.  And saving an AMI after doing that is nearly painless
(for EBS based boots).

I don't know of *any* major place that works without packages.  Many places
build images for fast installation, but the entire mindset is around

> I felt it was easier to just launch an AMI.....yet again, why not just
> repackage another image.

Indeed.  Why not provide packages and an AMI.  Remember that if you want to
provide an AMI, you pretty much have to make 12 of them.

> The automated build nature of what I do requires me to repackage some lower
> level libraries so they can link easily and stably (is that a word?) across
> multiple packages.


If you have this need, then others will as well.  They will find a complete
distro unusable.

> I also have some longer term objectives that will require me to have
> complete control over the kernel and packaging.
> It just seemed easier to start my own thing for this.

I suppose it depends on your goals.  Announcing this publicly implies that
you are interested in having others use it.  But building a distro for your
private needs that conflict with other peoples' private needs says just the

Agree, this could prove insane.  If that is the case, it wouldn't be *too*
> hard for me to convert this to some package repo

Probably not insane.  Probably just isn't entirely consistent in action and

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