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From Isabel Drost-Fromm <isa...@apache.org>
Subject Re: New logo
Date Sat, 06 May 2017 14:13:25 GMT
The green logo was the very first design iteration before iirc Robin came up with the yellow
one. The should be like five TShirts world wide with the old logo printed in 2009.


Am 1. Mai 2017 20:41:43 MESZ schrieb Trevor Grant <trevor.d.grant@gmail.com>:
>Thanks Scott,
>
>You are correct- in fact we're going even further now, that you can do
>native optimization regardless of the architecture with native-solvers.
>
>Do you or anyone more familiar with the history of the website know
>anything about the origins/uses of this:
>https://mahout.apache.org/images/Mahout-logo-245x300.png
>It seems to be a green mahout logo.
>
>Also Scott, or anyone lurking who may be able to help.  As part of the
>website reboot I've included a "history" page and would really
>apppreciate
>some help capturing that from first person sources if possible. Ive put
>in
>some headers but those are only directional:
>
>https://github.com/rawkintrevo/mahout/blob/website/website/front/community/history.md
>
>
>
>Trevor Grant
>Data Scientist
>https://github.com/rawkintrevo
>http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
>http://trevorgrant.org
>
>*"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."  -Virgil*
>
>
>On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 11:18 AM, scott cote <scottccote@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> Trevor et al:
>>
>> Some ideas to spur you on (and related points):
>>
>> Mahout is no longer a grab bag of algorithms and routines, but a math
>> language right?  You don’t care about the under the cover
>implementation.
>> Today its Spark with alternative implementations in Flink, etc ….
>>
>> Don’t know if that is the long term goal still  - haven’t kept up -
>but it
>> seems like you are insulating yourself from the underlying
>technology.
>>
>> Math is a universal language.  Right?
>>
>> Tower of Babel is coming to mind ….
>>
>> SCott
>>
>> > On Apr 27, 2017, at 10:27 PM, Trevor Grant
><trevor.d.grant@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > It also bugs me when I can't suggest any alternatives, yet don't
>like the
>> > ones in front of me...
>> >
>> > I became aware of a symbol a week or so ago, and it keeps coming
>back to
>> > me.
>> >
>> > The Enso.
>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ens%C5%8D
>> >
>> > Things I like about it:
>> > (all from wikipedia, since the only thing I knew about this symbol
>prior
>> is
>> > that someone I met had a tattoo of it).
>> > It represents (among a few other things) enlightenment.
>> > ^^ This resonated with the 'alternate definition of mahout' from
>Hebrew-
>> > which may be something akin to essence or truth.
>> >
>> > It is a circle- which plays to the Samsara theme.
>> >
>> > It is very expressive, a simple one or two brush stroke circle
>which
>> > symbolizes several large concepts and things about the creator,
>> expressive
>> > like our DSL (I feel gross comparing such a symbol to a Scala DSL,
>but
>> I'm
>> > spit balling here, please forgive me- I am not so expressive).
>> >
>> > "Once the *ensō* is drawn, one does not change it. It evidences the
>> > character of its creator and the context of its creation in a
>brief,
>> > contiguous period of time." Which reminds me of the DRMs
>> >
>> > In closed form it represents something akin to Plato's perfection-
>which
>> a
>> > little more wiki surfing tells me is the idea that no one can
>create a
>> > perfect circle because a circle is a collection of infinite points
>and
>> how
>> > could ever be sure that you have arranged each one properly, yet
>such
>> > things must exist, or what blueprint would a creator of circles be
>> striving
>> > for.  This, by-the-by reminds me of stochastic approaches to
>solving
>> > problems, and really statistics / "machine-learning" in general, in
>that
>> we
>> > can't find perfect solutions, yet we believe solutions exist and
>serve as
>> > our blueprint.
>> >
>> > Finally, I like that it is simple.
>> >
>> > Things I don't like about it:
>> > Lucent Technologies used it back in the 90s, however they used a
>very
>> > specific red one, and this isn't a deal breaker for me.
>> >
>> > Other thoughts:
>> > Based on the tattoo I saw- one could make an Enso using old mahout
>color
>> > palatte if one were to dab their brush in the appropriate colors.
>This
>> > could also be represented in any single color. (Not sure what that
>does
>> to
>> > our TM, is it ok if we just keep slapping TMs on the side of it? If
>that
>> is
>> > the case is there any reason we must have a single Enso?)
>> >
>> > So there is something to throw in the pot that is a little more
>grown up
>> > than my runner up favorites (honey badger, blueman riding bomb
>waving
>> > cowboy hat, blueman riding lighting bolt into a squirrel covered in
>> water,
>> > etc).
>> >
>> > Again, only know what wiki has told me, so if anyone is more
>familiar
>> with
>> > this symbol (like was it used as a logo by some horrible dictator
>which
>> > carried out terrible attrocities?) or just general comments.
>> > tg
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Trevor Grant
>> > Data Scientist
>> > https://github.com/rawkintrevo
>> > http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
>> > http://trevorgrant.org
>> >
>> > *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things." 
>-Virgil*
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:50 PM, Ted Dunning
><ted.dunning@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I don't have any constructive input at all. None of the proposals
>showed
>> >> any spark (to me).
>> >>
>> >> I hate it when I can't suggest a better path and I hate negative
>> feedback.
>> >> But there it is.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Pat Ferrel
><pat@occamsmachete.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Do you have constructive input (guidance or opinion is welcome
>input)
>> or
>> >>> would you like to discontinue the contest. If the later, -1 now.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I thought that none of the proposals were worth continuing with.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Pat Ferrel
><pat@occamsmachete.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Yes, -1 means you hate them all or think the designers  are not
>worth
>> >>>> paying. We have to pay to continue, I’ll foot the bill
>(donations
>> >>>> appreciated) but don’t want to unless people think it will lead
>to
>> >>>> something. For me there are a couple I wouldn’t mind seeing on
>the web
>> >>> site
>> >>>> or swag and yes we do have time to try something completely
>different,
>> >>> and
>> >>>> the designers will be more willing since there is a guaranteed
>payout.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:30 PM, Andrew Musselman <
>> >>> andrew.musselman@gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I thought we were just voting on continuing this process :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Trevor Grant <
>> >> trevor.d.grant@gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Also Pat, thank you for organizing.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> +0
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I don't love any of them enough to +1, I don't hate them all
>enough
>> to
>> >>> -1
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Most of them remind me of some spin on Apache Apex, Python,
>Numpy (a
>> >>>> Python
>> >>>>> Library), or IBM's DSX.  However, I realize a big part of that
>is the
>> >>>>> colors chosen.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> #143 is my favorite (possibly because it reminds me of none
of
>the
>> >>>> above).
>> >>>>> But possibly if this goes to next round we can have them adjust
>hues
>> /
>> >>>>> colors.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Trevor Grant
>> >>>>> Data Scientist
>> >>>>> https://github.com/rawkintrevo
>> >>>>> http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
>> >>>>> http://trevorgrant.org
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."
>> >> -Virgil*
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Andrew Musselman <
>> >>>>> andrew.musselman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> +1 to continue; thanks for organizing this Pat!
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> My personal favorite is #38
>> >>>>>> https://images-platform.99static.com/I9quDzcBrtJXg_
>> >>>>> NMaIsH6ySQ7Ok=/filters:
>> >>>>>> quality(100)/99designs-contests-attachments/84/84017/
>> >>>> attachment_84017937
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I like the stylized and simple "M" and it reminds me of
>diagrams
>> >>> showing
>> >>>>>> vector multiplication.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Pat Ferrel
><pat@occamsmachete.com
>> >
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> We can treat this like a release vote, if anyone hates
all
>these
>> and
>> >>>>>>> doesn’t want to continue with shortlisted designers
for 3
>more days
>> >>>>> (the
>> >>>>>>> next step) vote -1 and say if your vote is binding (your
are
>a PMC
>> >>>>>> member)
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Otherwise all are welcome to rate everything on the
polls
>below.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> In this case you have 24 hours to vote
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Here’s my +1 to continue refining.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Pat Ferrel
><pat@occamsmachete.com>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Here is a second group, hopefully picked to be unique.
>> >>>>>>> https://99designs.com/contests/poll/vl7xed
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> We got a lot of responses, these 2 polls contain the
best
>afaict.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Pat Ferrel
><pat@occamsmachete.com>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Vote: https://99designs.com/contests/poll/rqcgif
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> We asked for something “mathy” and asked for no
elephant and
>rider.
>> >> We
>> >>>>>>> have the rest of the week to tweak so leave comments
about
>what you
>> >>>>> like
>> >>>>>> or
>> >>>>>>> would like to change.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> We don’t have to pick one of these, so if you hate
them all,
>make
>> >> that
>> >>>>>>> known too.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>>
>>

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