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From Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: New logo
Date Sat, 06 May 2017 18:52:27 GMT
I know where one of those t-shirts is.



On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Isabel Drost-Fromm <isabel@apache.org>
wrote:

> The green logo was the very first design iteration before iirc Robin came
> up with the yellow one. The should be like five TShirts world wide with the
> old logo printed in 2009.
>
>
> Am 1. Mai 2017 20:41:43 MESZ schrieb Trevor Grant <
> trevor.d.grant@gmail.com>:
> >Thanks Scott,
> >
> >You are correct- in fact we're going even further now, that you can do
> >native optimization regardless of the architecture with native-solvers.
> >
> >Do you or anyone more familiar with the history of the website know
> >anything about the origins/uses of this:
> >https://mahout.apache.org/images/Mahout-logo-245x300.png
> >It seems to be a green mahout logo.
> >
> >Also Scott, or anyone lurking who may be able to help.  As part of the
> >website reboot I've included a "history" page and would really
> >apppreciate
> >some help capturing that from first person sources if possible. Ive put
> >in
> >some headers but those are only directional:
> >
> >https://github.com/rawkintrevo/mahout/blob/website/website/front/
> community/history.md
> >
> >
> >
> >Trevor Grant
> >Data Scientist
> >https://github.com/rawkintrevo
> >http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
> >http://trevorgrant.org
> >
> >*"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."  -Virgil*
> >
> >
> >On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 11:18 AM, scott cote <scottccote@gmail.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Trevor et al:
> >>
> >> Some ideas to spur you on (and related points):
> >>
> >> Mahout is no longer a grab bag of algorithms and routines, but a math
> >> language right?  You don’t care about the under the cover
> >implementation.
> >> Today its Spark with alternative implementations in Flink, etc ….
> >>
> >> Don’t know if that is the long term goal still  - haven’t kept up -
> >but it
> >> seems like you are insulating yourself from the underlying
> >technology.
> >>
> >> Math is a universal language.  Right?
> >>
> >> Tower of Babel is coming to mind ….
> >>
> >> SCott
> >>
> >> > On Apr 27, 2017, at 10:27 PM, Trevor Grant
> ><trevor.d.grant@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > It also bugs me when I can't suggest any alternatives, yet don't
> >like the
> >> > ones in front of me...
> >> >
> >> > I became aware of a symbol a week or so ago, and it keeps coming
> >back to
> >> > me.
> >> >
> >> > The Enso.
> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ens%C5%8D
> >> >
> >> > Things I like about it:
> >> > (all from wikipedia, since the only thing I knew about this symbol
> >prior
> >> is
> >> > that someone I met had a tattoo of it).
> >> > It represents (among a few other things) enlightenment.
> >> > ^^ This resonated with the 'alternate definition of mahout' from
> >Hebrew-
> >> > which may be something akin to essence or truth.
> >> >
> >> > It is a circle- which plays to the Samsara theme.
> >> >
> >> > It is very expressive, a simple one or two brush stroke circle
> >which
> >> > symbolizes several large concepts and things about the creator,
> >> expressive
> >> > like our DSL (I feel gross comparing such a symbol to a Scala DSL,
> >but
> >> I'm
> >> > spit balling here, please forgive me- I am not so expressive).
> >> >
> >> > "Once the *ensō* is drawn, one does not change it. It evidences the
> >> > character of its creator and the context of its creation in a
> >brief,
> >> > contiguous period of time." Which reminds me of the DRMs
> >> >
> >> > In closed form it represents something akin to Plato's perfection-
> >which
> >> a
> >> > little more wiki surfing tells me is the idea that no one can
> >create a
> >> > perfect circle because a circle is a collection of infinite points
> >and
> >> how
> >> > could ever be sure that you have arranged each one properly, yet
> >such
> >> > things must exist, or what blueprint would a creator of circles be
> >> striving
> >> > for.  This, by-the-by reminds me of stochastic approaches to
> >solving
> >> > problems, and really statistics / "machine-learning" in general, in
> >that
> >> we
> >> > can't find perfect solutions, yet we believe solutions exist and
> >serve as
> >> > our blueprint.
> >> >
> >> > Finally, I like that it is simple.
> >> >
> >> > Things I don't like about it:
> >> > Lucent Technologies used it back in the 90s, however they used a
> >very
> >> > specific red one, and this isn't a deal breaker for me.
> >> >
> >> > Other thoughts:
> >> > Based on the tattoo I saw- one could make an Enso using old mahout
> >color
> >> > palatte if one were to dab their brush in the appropriate colors.
> >This
> >> > could also be represented in any single color. (Not sure what that
> >does
> >> to
> >> > our TM, is it ok if we just keep slapping TMs on the side of it? If
> >that
> >> is
> >> > the case is there any reason we must have a single Enso?)
> >> >
> >> > So there is something to throw in the pot that is a little more
> >grown up
> >> > than my runner up favorites (honey badger, blueman riding bomb
> >waving
> >> > cowboy hat, blueman riding lighting bolt into a squirrel covered in
> >> water,
> >> > etc).
> >> >
> >> > Again, only know what wiki has told me, so if anyone is more
> >familiar
> >> with
> >> > this symbol (like was it used as a logo by some horrible dictator
> >which
> >> > carried out terrible attrocities?) or just general comments.
> >> > tg
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Trevor Grant
> >> > Data Scientist
> >> > https://github.com/rawkintrevo
> >> > http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
> >> > http://trevorgrant.org
> >> >
> >> > *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."
> >-Virgil*
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:50 PM, Ted Dunning
> ><ted.dunning@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I don't have any constructive input at all. None of the proposals
> >showed
> >> >> any spark (to me).
> >> >>
> >> >> I hate it when I can't suggest a better path and I hate negative
> >> feedback.
> >> >> But there it is.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Pat Ferrel
> ><pat@occamsmachete.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Do you have constructive input (guidance or opinion is welcome
> >input)
> >> or
> >> >>> would you like to discontinue the contest. If the later, -1 now.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I thought that none of the proposals were worth continuing with.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Pat Ferrel
> ><pat@occamsmachete.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Yes, -1 means you hate them all or think the designers  are
not
> >worth
> >> >>>> paying. We have to pay to continue, I’ll foot the bill
> >(donations
> >> >>>> appreciated) but don’t want to unless people think it will
lead
> >to
> >> >>>> something. For me there are a couple I wouldn’t mind seeing
on
> >the web
> >> >>> site
> >> >>>> or swag and yes we do have time to try something completely
> >different,
> >> >>> and
> >> >>>> the designers will be more willing since there is a guaranteed
> >payout.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:30 PM, Andrew Musselman <
> >> >>> andrew.musselman@gmail.com>
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I thought we were just voting on continuing this process :)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Trevor Grant <
> >> >> trevor.d.grant@gmail.com>
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> Also Pat, thank you for organizing.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> +0
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> I don't love any of them enough to +1, I don't hate them
all
> >enough
> >> to
> >> >>> -1
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Most of them remind me of some spin on Apache Apex, Python,
> >Numpy (a
> >> >>>> Python
> >> >>>>> Library), or IBM's DSX.  However, I realize a big part
of that
> >is the
> >> >>>>> colors chosen.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> #143 is my favorite (possibly because it reminds me of
none of
> >the
> >> >>>> above).
> >> >>>>> But possibly if this goes to next round we can have them
adjust
> >hues
> >> /
> >> >>>>> colors.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Trevor Grant
> >> >>>>> Data Scientist
> >> >>>>> https://github.com/rawkintrevo
> >> >>>>> http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
> >> >>>>> http://trevorgrant.org
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."
> >> >> -Virgil*
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Andrew Musselman <
> >> >>>>> andrew.musselman@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> +1 to continue; thanks for organizing this Pat!
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> My personal favorite is #38
> >> >>>>>> https://images-platform.99static.com/I9quDzcBrtJXg_
> >> >>>>> NMaIsH6ySQ7Ok=/filters:
> >> >>>>>> quality(100)/99designs-contests-attachments/84/84017/
> >> >>>> attachment_84017937
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> I like the stylized and simple "M" and it reminds me
of
> >diagrams
> >> >>> showing
> >> >>>>>> vector multiplication.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Pat Ferrel
> ><pat@occamsmachete.com
> >> >
> >> >>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> We can treat this like a release vote, if anyone
hates all
> >these
> >> and
> >> >>>>>>> doesn’t want to continue with shortlisted designers
for 3
> >more days
> >> >>>>> (the
> >> >>>>>>> next step) vote -1 and say if your vote is binding
(your are
> >a PMC
> >> >>>>>> member)
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Otherwise all are welcome to rate everything on
the polls
> >below.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> In this case you have 24 hours to vote
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Here’s my +1 to continue refining.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Pat Ferrel
> ><pat@occamsmachete.com>
> >> >>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Here is a second group, hopefully picked to be
unique.
> >> >>>>>>> https://99designs.com/contests/poll/vl7xed
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> We got a lot of responses, these 2 polls contain
the best
> >afaict.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Pat Ferrel
> ><pat@occamsmachete.com>
> >> >>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Vote: https://99designs.com/contests/poll/rqcgif
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> We asked for something “mathy” and asked for
no elephant and
> >rider.
> >> >> We
> >> >>>>>>> have the rest of the week to tweak so leave comments
about
> >what you
> >> >>>>> like
> >> >>>>>> or
> >> >>>>>>> would like to change.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> We don’t have to pick one of these, so if you
hate them all,
> >make
> >> >> that
> >> >>>>>>> known too.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
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