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From Mark Libucha <mlibu...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: SharePoint List item URLs
Date Wed, 20 Nov 2013 18:43:24 GMT
Excellent! I was writing up a response to tell you the 2nd plugin change
also did not work. I'll revert and apply the patch and report back.

Thanks,

Mark


On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Karl Wright <daddywri@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>
> I found another way to do it - I think - that doesn't involve changes to
> the plugin.
>
> I've attached a patch to the the ticket accordingly.  (CONNECTORS-813).
>
> So you should be able to revert back to the distributed plugin and that
> will make things tons easier.
>
> Karl
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Karl Wright <daddywri@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ok, I've uploaded another try - this time using a different suggestion
>> from the same page.  Can you verify that it does not fail for both
>> documents in libraries and for list items?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Karl
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Karl Wright <daddywri@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, so much for StackOverflow suggestions.  It seems to be relying on
>>> an undocumented feature anyhow.
>>>
>>> Let me try one other thing - will get right back to you.
>>>
>>> Karl
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Mark Libucha <mlibucha@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Karl,
>>>>
>>>> It did not work. In fact, the SharePoint crawler never sent anything to
>>>> my output connector, except for the Job Completed callback.
>>>>
>>>> Log excerpt:
>>>>
>>>> DEBUG 2013-11-20 11:56:26,683 (Worker thread '34') - SharePoint:
>>>> Getting version of '/test3/Links///'
>>>> DEBUG 2013-11-20 11:56:26,684 (Worker thread '34') - SharePoint:
>>>> Checking whether to include list '/test3/Links'
>>>> DEBUG 2013-11-20 11:56:26,684 (Worker thread '34') - SharePoint: List
>>>> '/test3/Links' exactly matched rule path '/*'
>>>> DEBUG 2013-11-20 11:56:26,684 (Worker thread '34') - SharePoint:
>>>> Including list '/test3/Links'
>>>> DEBUG 2013-11-20 11:56:26,685 (Worker thread '34') - SharePoint:
>>>> Processing: '/test3/Links///'
>>>> DEBUG 2013-11-20 11:56:26,685 (Worker thread '34') - SharePoint:
>>>> Document identifier is a list: '/test3/Links'
>>>> DEBUG 2013-11-20 11:56:26,768 (Worker thread '26') - SharePoint: The
>>>> page at http://myhost/test3 did not exist; assuming library deleted
>>>> DEBUG 2013-11-20 11:56:26,768 (Worker thread '26') - SharePoint: No
>>>> list found for list '/test3/Calendar' - deleting
>>>> DEBUG 2013-11-20 11:56:26,958 (Worker thread '34') - SharePoint: In
>>>> getFieldList; site='/test3',
>>>> listName='{A6631841-0251-46C1-86F0-B1B049B2F659}'
>>>> DEBUG 2013-11-20 11:56:27,360 (Worker thread '35') - SharePoint: The
>>>> page at http://myhost/test3 did not exist; assuming library deleted
>>>> DEBUG 2013-11-20 11:56:27,360 (Worker thread '35') - SharePoint: No
>>>> list found for library '/test3/SitePages' - deleting
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Karl Wright <daddywri@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>
>>>>> So I've created a new version of the MCPermissions.asmx plugin for
>>>>> SharePoint 2010.  You can download the .wsp for it from:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~kwright/MetaCarta.SharePoint.MCPermissionsService.wsp
>>>>>
>>>>> Install it by replacing the file of the same name in the plugin
>>>>> installation package.  Or, if you prefer, I can build the complete package
>>>>> - please let me know.
>>>>>
>>>>> The point of doing this now is to make sure that this plugin works for
>>>>> both list items and for files, with getting exceptions or whatnot.  If
it
>>>>> fails, then we are back to the drawing board, but if it seems to work
OK
>>>>> then I will make appropriate modifications to the SharePoint connector
to
>>>>> correspond to it.
>>>>>
>>>>> In order to know whether it is working, you will need to crawl both
>>>>> lists and libraries, and make sure that MCF discovers the list items
and
>>>>> files within without errors.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let me know if you are able to do this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Karl
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Karl Wright <daddywri@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This link seems helpful:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/sharepoint/en-US/2be88c8b-812b-4574-8c2c-965cedd2f199/how-to-get-splistitem-item-server-relative-url-or-absolute-url-in-sharepoint-list?forum=sharepointdevelopmentlegacy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll give it a try.
>>>>>> Karl
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Karl Wright <daddywri@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First - have you installed the ManifoldCF SharePoint 2010 plugin?
>>>>>>> Have you selected SharePoint 2010 in your connection definition?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you have, then ManifoldCF is communicating with the
>>>>>>> MCPermissions.asmx plugin to perform this activity.  Please see
this page:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/microsoft.sharepoint.splistitem_members%28v=office.14%29.aspx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The field the plugin is returning is the "Url" field of the item.
>>>>>>> There is no "ListItemURL" member that I can see.  So, are inspecting
the
>>>>>>> results from the Lists web service?  I wonder how the Lists webservice
>>>>>>> translates the FileRef URL into a ListItemURL, in C#?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Karl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Karl Wright <daddywri@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok; to fix this problem then we will need a new release of
the
>>>>>>>> SharePoint 2010 plugin.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Karl
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Mark Libucha <mlibucha@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ah, I think it's this: LISTITEMURL
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That works for me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Karl Wright <daddywri@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hmm, okay.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The URL we use is what comes back in the "FileRef"
field of the
>>>>>>>>>> Lists.asmx getListItems response.  It is possible
that there's a better
>>>>>>>>>> choice for list items.  I'll create a ticket and
look into what the options
>>>>>>>>>> are.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Karl
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Mark Libucha <mlibucha@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That doesn't work either.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In the SharePoint UI, the Task List is presented
as a table,
>>>>>>>>>>> with each of the individual items in the list
presented as a URL. When you
>>>>>>>>>>> click on an item, it raises a pop up...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The links on the page look like this...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://myhost/_layouts/listform.aspx?PageType=4&ListId={1BD4F07D-A210-45A7-9C91-D296B1AB73EE}&ID=2&ContentTypeID=0x010800DE3D7FC80C8CFC4BA00DFEC40120E795
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing like the URIs they are handing back to
MCF...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the info.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Karl Wright
<
>>>>>>>>>>> daddywri@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> SharePoint indeed uses URLs of this form.
 The one you provided
>>>>>>>>>>>> describes a List in the root site called
"Tasks", and references the second
>>>>>>>>>>>> item in that list.  I'm surprised SharePoint
doesn't give something better
>>>>>>>>>>>> than a 404 when you go to it, though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you go to http://myhost/Lists/Tasks#2_.000<http://myhost/Lists/Tasks/2_.000>without
it giving a 404?  because that's something the connector could
>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Karl
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://myhost/Lists/Tasks/2_.000>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Mark Libucha
<
>>>>>>>>>>>> mlibucha@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I crawl a list, I get back URLs
that look like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://myhost/Lists/Tasks/2_.000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This URL returns a 404, but I think that's
a SharePoint issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't believe there's a way to point
directly to an item in List (is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there?).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My question then is, is SharePoint returning
this URL in this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> form, or is MCF creating the URL based
on the name of the list?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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