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From Billie Rinaldi <bil...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Stepping down as release manager
Date Wed, 22 Mar 2017 15:30:35 GMT
Not everything needs to be voted upon. The ASF guidelines and Metron's
bylaws specify which actions require a vote. Other types of things, like
choosing a release manager, can be approved by lazy consensus. I just
noticed that Metron's bylaws have slightly different definitions for the
approval types than the ASF typically uses. I'd recommend changing these to
the standard ASF definitions. Specifically, Lazy Consensus does not require
a vote and thus no +1s are needed (https://www.apache.org/
foundation/glossary.html#LazyConsensus) and Lazy Majority and Lazy 2/3
Majority should be called Majority (https://www.apache.org/
foundation/glossary.html#MajorityApproval) and 2/3 Majority.

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 7:23 AM, Justin Leet <justinjleet@gmail.com> wrote:

> Right now it's just support, not a vote.  I assume, based on our past
> practices, that there will be a separate [VOTE] thread.
>
> Justin
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Otto Fowler <ottobackwards@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > +1 but is this explicitly an official vote?
> >
> >
> > On March 21, 2017 at 13:51:16, Justin Leet (justinjleet@gmail.com)
> wrote:
> >
> > +1 for Matt
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Zeolla@GMail.com <zeolla@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1 for mattf
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:04 AM Ryan Merriman <merrimanr@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1 for Matt
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Matt Foley <mattf@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Casey, you’ve been a great release manager. I know how much detail
> > > > effort
> > > > > goes into this role.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am willing to serve as RM for the next while, if the community
> > would
> > > > > like. I was the RM for Hadoop for about a year, and in fact was RM
> > for
> > > > its
> > > > > 1.0 release. Granted that was a while ago, but overall process
> > doesn’t
> > > > seem
> > > > > to have changed much :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > --Matt
> > > > >
> > > > > On 3/21/17, 7:32 AM, "Casey Stella" <cestella@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Right, Billie is exactly right. Working with the community to
> > > > > constructing
> > > > > releases that conform to apache standards and policies is the main
> > > > > duty.
> > > > > This will (hopefully) be our first set of releases outside of the
> > > > > incubator, so if I'm allowed to be biased, I'm hoping that someone
> > > > with
> > > > > previous release management experience in other projects will
> > > > > volunteer.
> > > > > We're leaving the nest a bit and having an experienced hand at the
> > > > > tiller
> > > > > would be advantageous.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Billie Rinaldi <
> > > billie@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > See http://www.apache.org/dev/release-publishing#release_manager
> > > > and
> > > > > > http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html for information
> > > on
> > > > > the
> > > > > > tasks that a release manager performs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:10 AM, Khurram Ahmed <
> > > > > khurramahmed@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Casey it would be helpful if you could outline the
> > > > > responsibilities of a
> > > > > > > release manager for the Metron project.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2017 6:57 PM, "Casey Stella" <cestella@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've been extremely honored to spend the last few
months as
> > > the
> > > > > Metron
> > > > > > > > Release Manager. That being said, my watch is ended
and it's
> > > > > time for
> > > > > > > > another release manager to step into my place.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Who would like to volunteer to be release manager
for the
> > > next
> > > > > release
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > Metron?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Casey
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Jon
> > >
> >
> >
>

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