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From Laurens Vets <laur...@daemon.be>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings
Date Thu, 14 Dec 2017 16:24:05 GMT

Sounds good to me :)

On 2017-12-14 05:59, Otto Fowler wrote:
> Ok,
> 
> So we will be concerned with two types of meetings.  I’ll take
> responsibility for calling the meetings and ‘moderation’.
> 
> Dev meetings
>  - feedback on how things are going overall
>  - discussions on specific technical problems
>  - discussion of possible improvements
> 
> User meetings
>  - demos
>  - user content ( how I’m using metron )
>  - some unavoidable discussion on problems
>  - some requirements gathering triage
> 
> ALL
>  - I will call
>  - I will gather input for agenda
>  - I will distribute the agenda
>  - I will distribute the notes to the list and on confluence
>  - No decisions will be made, only discussed and then put to list
>  - besides general nodes, breakout messages for topical discussion or
> decisions
> 
> 
> 
> How does that sound?
> 
> 
> On December 13, 2017 at 16:41:29, Otto Fowler (ottobackwards@gmail.com)
> wrote:
> 
> +1
> 
> 
> On December 13, 2017 at 16:39:52, James Sirota (jsirota@apache.org) 
> wrote:
> 
> I can set up a dedicated Zoom room with a recurrent meeting and give 
> PMC
> members rights to the room. I think hosting these meetings should not 
> be a
> problem. I would vote not to record them, but rather provide the notes
> after the meeting. It's a lot easier to skim through the notes than 
> jump
> around in a recording. As Simon mentioned, I would also make it 
> explicitly
> clear that the meetings are dev meetings. These are not user Q&A and 
> are
> not meant to be overviews of how different features of Metron work. If 
> we
> want to do feature demos or provide user content I would want that to 
> be in
> its own separate meeting.
> 
> Thanks,
> James
> 
> 13.12.2017, 05:00, "Otto Fowler" <ottobackwards@gmail.com>:
>> I am ok with just notes and no recording.
>> 
>> On December 13, 2017 at 04:37:20, Simon Elliston Ball (
>> simon@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
>> 
>> Good points Larry, we would need to get consent from everyone on the 
>> call
>> to record to properly comply with regulations in some countries. We 
>> would
>> definitely need someone to step up as note taker.
>> 
>> Something else to think about is intended audience. Previously we’ve 
>> had
>> meeting like this which have been very detailed Dev@ focussed (which 
>> is a
>> great thing) but have rather alienated participants in User@ land. We 
>> need
>> to make it clear what level we’re talking about to be inclusive.
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
>>>  On 13 Dec 2017, at 00:44, larry mccay <lmccay@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Not sure about posting the recordings - you will need to check and 
>>> make
>>>  sure that doesn't violate anything.
>>> 
>>>  Just a friendly reminder...
>>>  It is important that meetings have notes and a summary that is sent 
>>> out
>>>  describing topics to be decided on the mailing list.
>>>  No decisions can be made in the community meeting itself - this 
>>> gives
>>>  others in other timezones and commitments review and voice in the
>> 
>> decisions.
>>>  If it didn't happen on the mailing lists then it didn't happen. :)
>>> 
>>>  On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Simon Elliston Ball <
>>>  simon@simonellistonball.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>  Yes, I do.
>>>> 
>>>>  I suspect the best bet will be to post recordings somewhere on the
>>>>  apache.org <http://apache.org/> metron site.
>>>> 
>>>>  Simon
>>>> 
>>>>>  On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Otto Fowler <ottobackwards@gmail.com>

>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Excellent, do you have the > 40 min + record option?
>>>>> 
>>>>>  On December 12, 2017 at 13:19:55, Simon Elliston Ball (
>>>>>  simon@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Happy to volunteer a zoom room. That seems to have worked for most 
>>>>> in
>> 
>> the
>>>>>  past.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Simon
>>>>> 
>>>>>>  On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Otto Fowler <ottobackwards@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Thanks! I think I’d like something hosted though.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (
>>>>  ahmedshah@cmail.carleton.ca)
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Hello,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  wrt "- How are we going to host it"...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  It is LGPL open source.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  https://bigbluebutton.org/
>>>>>>  https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  -Ahmed
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  _______________________________________________________________
>>>>>>  Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
>>>>>>  Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
>>>>>>  GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
>>>>>>  Carleton University - 
>>>>>> cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  ________________________________
>>>>>>  From: Otto Fowler <ottobackwards@gmail.com>
>>>>>>  Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
>>>>>>  To: dev@metron.apache.org
>>>>>>  Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  I think that we all want to have regular community meetings. We

>>>>>> may
> be
>>>>>>  better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings if

>>>>>> we
>>>>>  spread
>>>>>>  out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both of 
>>>>>> whom
>> 
>> have
>>>>  a
>>>>>>  lot on their plate already.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and would
>> 
>> welcome
>>>>>>  anyone else who wants to help when they can.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that I 
>>>>>> can
> use
>>>>  to
>>>>>>  hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a 
>>>>>> suitable
>>>>>>  alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly
>>>>  alternative,
>>>>>>  in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  So - from what I can see we need to:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  - Talk through who is going to do it
>>>>>>  - How are we going to host it
>>>>>>  - When are we going to do it
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Anything else?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  ottO
> 
> -------------------
> Thank you,
> 
> James Sirota
> PMC- Apache Metron
> jsirota AT apache DOT org

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