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From "Zeolla@GMail.com" <zeo...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings
Date Thu, 14 Dec 2017 18:56:56 GMT
This sounds great Otto, thanks.

Jon

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 11:24 AM Laurens Vets <laurens@daemon.be> wrote:

>
> Sounds good to me :)
>
> On 2017-12-14 05:59, Otto Fowler wrote:
> > Ok,
> >
> > So we will be concerned with two types of meetings.  I’ll take
> > responsibility for calling the meetings and ‘moderation’.
> >
> > Dev meetings
> >  - feedback on how things are going overall
> >  - discussions on specific technical problems
> >  - discussion of possible improvements
> >
> > User meetings
> >  - demos
> >  - user content ( how I’m using metron )
> >  - some unavoidable discussion on problems
> >  - some requirements gathering triage
> >
> > ALL
> >  - I will call
> >  - I will gather input for agenda
> >  - I will distribute the agenda
> >  - I will distribute the notes to the list and on confluence
> >  - No decisions will be made, only discussed and then put to list
> >  - besides general nodes, breakout messages for topical discussion or
> > decisions
> >
> >
> >
> > How does that sound?
> >
> >
> > On December 13, 2017 at 16:41:29, Otto Fowler (ottobackwards@gmail.com)
> > wrote:
> >
> > +1
> >
> >
> > On December 13, 2017 at 16:39:52, James Sirota (jsirota@apache.org)
> > wrote:
> >
> > I can set up a dedicated Zoom room with a recurrent meeting and give
> > PMC
> > members rights to the room. I think hosting these meetings should not
> > be a
> > problem. I would vote not to record them, but rather provide the notes
> > after the meeting. It's a lot easier to skim through the notes than
> > jump
> > around in a recording. As Simon mentioned, I would also make it
> > explicitly
> > clear that the meetings are dev meetings. These are not user Q&A and
> > are
> > not meant to be overviews of how different features of Metron work. If
> > we
> > want to do feature demos or provide user content I would want that to
> > be in
> > its own separate meeting.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > James
> >
> > 13.12.2017, 05:00, "Otto Fowler" <ottobackwards@gmail.com>:
> >> I am ok with just notes and no recording.
> >>
> >> On December 13, 2017 at 04:37:20, Simon Elliston Ball (
> >> simon@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
> >>
> >> Good points Larry, we would need to get consent from everyone on the
> >> call
> >> to record to properly comply with regulations in some countries. We
> >> would
> >> definitely need someone to step up as note taker.
> >>
> >> Something else to think about is intended audience. Previously we’ve
> >> had
> >> meeting like this which have been very detailed Dev@ focussed (which
> >> is a
> >> great thing) but have rather alienated participants in User@ land. We
> >> need
> >> to make it clear what level we’re talking about to be inclusive.
> >>
> >> Simon
> >>
> >>>  On 13 Dec 2017, at 00:44, larry mccay <lmccay@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  Not sure about posting the recordings - you will need to check and
> >>> make
> >>>  sure that doesn't violate anything.
> >>>
> >>>  Just a friendly reminder...
> >>>  It is important that meetings have notes and a summary that is sent
> >>> out
> >>>  describing topics to be decided on the mailing list.
> >>>  No decisions can be made in the community meeting itself - this
> >>> gives
> >>>  others in other timezones and commitments review and voice in the
> >>
> >> decisions.
> >>>  If it didn't happen on the mailing lists then it didn't happen. :)
> >>>
> >>>  On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Simon Elliston Ball <
> >>>  simon@simonellistonball.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>  Yes, I do.
> >>>>
> >>>>  I suspect the best bet will be to post recordings somewhere on the
> >>>>  apache.org <http://apache.org/> metron site.
> >>>>
> >>>>  Simon
> >>>>
> >>>>>  On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:36, Otto Fowler <ottobackwards@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  Excellent, do you have the > 40 min + record option?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  On December 12, 2017 at 13:19:55, Simon Elliston Ball (
> >>>>>  simon@simonellistonball.com) wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  Happy to volunteer a zoom room. That seems to have worked for most
> >>>>> in
> >>
> >> the
> >>>>>  past.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  Simon
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>  On 12 Dec 2017, at 18:09, Otto Fowler <ottobackwards@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  Thanks! I think I’d like something hosted though.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  On December 12, 2017 at 11:18:52, Ahmed Shah (
> >>>>  ahmedshah@cmail.carleton.ca)
> >>>>>>  wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  Hello,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  wrt "- How are we going to host it"...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  I've used BigBlueButton as an end user at our University.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  It is LGPL open source.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  https://bigbluebutton.org/
> >>>>>>  https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  -Ahmed
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  _______________________________________________________________
> >>>>>>  Ahmed Shah (PMP, M. Eng.)
> >>>>>>  Cybersecurity Analyst & Developer
> >>>>>>  GCR - Cybersecurity Operations Center
> >>>>>>  Carleton University -
> >>>>>> cugcr.com<https://cugcr.com/tiki/lce/index.php>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  ________________________________
> >>>>>>  From: Otto Fowler <ottobackwards@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>  Sent: December 11, 2017 4:41 PM
> >>>>>>  To: dev@metron.apache.org
> >>>>>>  Subject: [DISCUSS] Community Meetings
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  I think that we all want to have regular community meetings.
We
> >>>>>> may
> > be
> >>>>>>  better able to keep to a regular schedule with these meetings
if
> >>>>>> we
> >>>>>  spread
> >>>>>>  out the responsibility for them from James and Casey, both
of
> >>>>>> whom
> >>
> >> have
> >>>>  a
> >>>>>>  lot on their plate already.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  I would be willing to coordinate and run the meetings, and
would
> >>
> >> welcome
> >>>>>>  anyone else who wants to help when they can.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  The only issue for me is I do not have a web-ex account that
I
> >>>>>> can
> > use
> >>>>  to
> >>>>>>  hold the meeting. So I’ll need some recommendations for a
> >>>>>> suitable
> >>>>>>  alternative. I have not been able to find an Apache Friendly
> >>>>  alternative,
> >>>>>>  in the same way that Atlassian is apache friendly.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  So - from what I can see we need to:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  - Talk through who is going to do it
> >>>>>>  - How are we going to host it
> >>>>>>  - When are we going to do it
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  Anything else?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  ottO
> >
> > -------------------
> > Thank you,
> >
> > James Sirota
> > PMC- Apache Metron
> > jsirota AT apache DOT org
>
-- 

Jon

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