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From Casey Stella <ceste...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Slack Channel Use
Date Mon, 22 Oct 2018 21:23:37 GMT
Agreed, the benefit of the mailing list is that it’s searchable by ponymail
and the major search engines.
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 17:18 Nick Allen <nick@nickallen.org> wrote:

> I don't know that it is the same kind of searchable.  Is it being indexed
> by the major search engines?  I have never used a search engine and
> uncovered the answer to my problem in a Slack archive.
>
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 5:05 PM Otto Fowler <ottobackwards@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > According to Greg Stein, an infra admin on the NiFi slack, the ASF slack
> > that metron is in IS the standard plan, not the free one and is
> searchable
> > past 10,000 messages.
> >
> >
> >
> > On October 22, 2018 at 15:35:51, Michael Miklavcic (
> > michael.miklavcic@gmail.com) wrote:
> >
> > ...From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think there's
> > something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also easier to
> link
> > to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do searches...
> >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1aa85bc13d41e04a1f85c3100c2b803abe35d79b54062bbeaab83ace@%3Cdev.metron.apache.org%3E
> >
> > How very Inception.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 1:32 PM Michael Miklavcic <
> > michael.miklavcic@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I just want to point out that we currently have 32 members in the
> Metron
> > > Slack channel which I personally think is a great sign. This is good
> from
> > a
> > > community perspective and helps foster interactive sessions where
> > required.
> > > From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think there's
> > > something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also easier to
> > link
> > > to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do searches. As
> such, I
> > > would also go along with Nick's suggestion and urge members to prefer
> the
> > > user/dev list where possible.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:51 AM Justin Leet <justinjleet@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> If we want to push more discussion to the dev list, my obvious follow
> up
> > >> question then is "What are we hoping to get out of Slack/irc/other
> > >> interactive medium?". What discussion would we even want on there, if
> we
> > >> can't have decisions and don't want usage/support?
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:44 PM Casey Stella <cestella@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I am of 2 minds, but I tend to agree. On the one hand, it's
> definitely
> > >> the
> > >> > preference that we use the mailing lists for the reasons you stated
> > (and
> > >> > also because not everyone has access to slack generally). On the
> other
> > >> > hand, I think an interactive medium like Slack has a lot of
> advantages
> > >> in
> > >> > terms of user satisfaction. Ultimately, though, we may satisfy 1
> user
> > >> at
> > >> > the cost of not persisting the discussion and satisfying many users.
> > >> >
> > >> > I'll go along with a specific preference to drive more discussion
to
> > the
> > >> > mailing list.
> > >> >
> > >> > Casey
> > >> >
> > >> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:18 PM Nick Allen <nick@nickallen.org>
> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > It seems that we are seeing a lot of Metron usage and support
> > >> questions
> > >> > on
> > >> > > the Slack Channel.
> > >> > > These are questions that previously would have been directed
to
> the
> > >> User
> > >> > or
> > >> > > Dev mailing lists. Since this is occurring in the Slack Channel,
> the
> > >> > > conversations are not archived.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > In my opinion, this is not good for the Metron community. Having
> > this
> > >> > > persisted in a discoverable form (like a mailing list archive)
not
> > >> only
> > >> > > helps support current users, but also helps *potential* users
> > >> understand
> > >> > > how Metron is being used.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Does anyone else agree or disagree? At a minimum, I feel we need
> to
> > >> do
> > >> > > something to direct these conversations back to the mailing list.
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> >
>

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